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Family seeks answers after shooting (dog and 5 yr old shot by cops)
recordnet.com ^ | 5/3/07 | Ellen Thompson

Posted on 05/04/2007 3:47:59 PM PDT by traviskicks

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To: elkfersupper
I admire and respect "peace officers". I revile "law enforcement" officers.

We need to return the separation of "peace officers" and "rev'nooers". The unification of tasks corrupts both.

201 posted on 05/12/2007 9:18:05 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: JamminJAY
I can tell you what I would do to the pup in a war zone, let it jump me, pull my bowie and open the dogs throat.

How much danger would that pose if one wore a metal-reinforced gauntlet on the left wrist? I would think it could be managed pretty safely.

And if you had to slash the throat of a dog whose teeth were sunk into the gauntlet I would think your justification would be far more demonstrable than if you'd shot the dog as it approached.

202 posted on 05/12/2007 9:20:57 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Drango

I guess I should have been more clear with a big bold multicolored sarcasm at the end of my comment. LOL. That just takes the fun out of it.


203 posted on 05/12/2007 10:08:02 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: rogue yam

First off you have to realize a lot of the Paranoia inducing information as to the dangers of being a Peace Officer are propaganda.. The Union propagandizes the issue to increase their pay.. The MS Media to support gun control. On the other hand the American People have an unrealistic expectation that Peace Officers are their “Defender” they are not.. They keep the streets open for commerce, keep a lid on things thats it. They are not out there to protect any single individual and that includes little 5 year old girls..They are not Soldiers, they are not Warriors... they are public employees that have the right to go home at night.. Asking or expecting them to put their life on the line in truth (not as propaganda message for better pay) is not realistic.. It is a Job and one has a right to come home from a Job.. So this incident although unfortunate is just the way things are... Time some folks accept it.. Peace Officers are not Warriors Defenders of the Nation and it’s people.. They are public employees who have the right to strike and the right to go home after work unharmed..

Just accept it a move on..

W


204 posted on 05/12/2007 10:17:01 PM PDT by WLR
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To: WLR

25 years ago I had to shoot a 90lb dog that jumped a 6 foot fence to get at my German Shepard’s. It charged out of the dusk mouth open trying to bite..I hit it in the head with one round...end of match. I had my weapon in hand and still it was muzzle action. The officer had a dog come boiling out. I am willing to bet he had to draw and shoot. No easy feat when your scared and it is realistic he was scared. Nothing wrong at all with that. Was the dog only part of an attack? Was there someone with a shotgun in the shadow or at a window?. The media, the Unions and those in power all play up the danger of being a Police Officer making reality even worse than it is. Their constant drumbeat works on the head of Peace Officers just like the Left cheering the death of GIs wears on you till you do not care about anything or anyone.. You are going home and to hell with everyone else but those you know. For Peace Officers those they know are other Peace Officers the public they see is either perpetrator, suspect or victim. It is the psychology of that perspective that drives the life of Peace Officers. There lives for many in truth are not all peaches and cream. I know I could not/would not do it.. still it is job that has to be done.. Given they more often than not work for crooks (Politicians) It is amazing they do as well as they do.

He did not shoot the little kid she was hit by a ricochet..
It is unfortunate and he will be second guessed and should be looked at carefully but I just don’t see he did anything but be in the wrong place at the wrong time. He just got bit by “The Big Green Worm (wrong place wrong time).

We should all just be glad the little girl was not killed and cut him some slack.

W


205 posted on 05/12/2007 11:40:50 PM PDT by WLR
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To: rogue yam
OK, so I read the article and it seems what happened is that a police officer knocked on somebody’s door and someone in the house opened the door and a 50 pound “Rotweiller-mix” dog came out. So what exactly do the FReepers criticizing the officer who fired think that this officer should have done instead of firing? Simply let a fifty pound dog attack him? Try to outrun the dog? What?

Why should the policeman's response be any different to that of a FedEx, UPS, postman, Jehovah's Witness, Avon, or pizza delivery boy knocking on the door and being met with a " 50 pound 'Rotweiller-mix' dog" coming out? I never read of those people shooting the dog first. But for policement, it seems it's the first choice.

Carlsbad officer fatally shoots dog

Officer Shoots Dog Looking For Water-Balloon Thrower

Police shots at dog hit officers

206 posted on 05/13/2007 12:19:13 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: rogue yam
So what should the cop have done instead? Let an attacking dog maul him?

What do FedEx and UPS guys do when they knock on a door and a dog comes running out? Why do I never read of them shooting a dog? Is it because there are other ways to deal with the situation than shooting first?

207 posted on 05/13/2007 12:22:22 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: jim35
You all criticize, but I wonder what you would have done in his position.

What do FedEx and UPS guys do in his position? Every day they knock on doors and are met with dogs trying to get out. They don't shoot. The last time the UPS man was here and my dog tried to get out, the delivery man simply put his hand down and let my dog sniff it first, then he patted him on the head and handed me the signature tablet.

208 posted on 05/13/2007 12:26:11 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Redcloak

BTW the way if it was so dangerous was there another policeman with him?

Or was this just routine call?


209 posted on 05/13/2007 12:29:22 AM PDT by restornu (As I have Love you Love One To Another By This Shall Men know Ye Are My Disciples!)
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To: FreedomCalls

leo’s are filled with the spirit of fear. As they continue to act as “enforcers” they act unjustly. Then that spirit of fear grows, becoming stronger in time dominating their perceptions, then their lives.

Everyone and especially every creature can sense, can smell that fear. It drives events. The reactions of people and animals to them.

Peace Officers are not filled with the Spirit of Fear and thing go better for them. By seeking ways to stay Peaceable in Christs admonitions more often than not it serves to influence The People they in faith serve and the animals like dogs who also react to that sense of peace.

W


210 posted on 05/13/2007 3:38:51 AM PDT by WLR
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