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To: Invincibly Ignorant

“Just look at the looneys here on FR
who go ballistic every time the word “Mormon” is uttered.”

Your so called “looneys who go ballistic” are in good part composed of former Mormons, or people like myself who have had extensive dealings with church members in high Mormon population areas. They may be looneys, or they may be canaries in the coal mine.

But if you think we are looneys, did you know Adam (of Adam and Eve fame) was also a God, and Eve was just one of his many wives?

[President Brigham Young’s Teaching

Here we have the name/titles of the three creation Gods. Except for Michael the identities of Eloheem and Jehovah are not spelled out. Brigham Young mentioned, “It is true that the earth was organized by three distinct characters, namely, Eloheim, Yahovah, and Michael . . .” (Journal of Discourses 1:51, 9 April 1852).

In this same discourse (as published) President Brigham Young said:

When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. . . . the seed was brought from another sphere, and planted in this earth. . . . When Adam and Eve had eaten of the forbidden fruit, their bodies became mortal from its effects, and therefore their offspring were mortal” (Journal of Discourses 1:50, emphasis in original).

What we have are three creation Gods, Eloheim, Yahovah [spelled that way in the Endowment House records] and Michael. They are not the Father, Son and Holy Ghost (Holy Spirit) but a different trinity. They are like a LDS priesthood presidency of three (Elder’s Quorum, High Priest Quorum, First Presidency, Mission Presidency, Temple Presidency). But there are now two trinities, the regular Father, Son and Holy Ghost and the creation Gods Eloheim, Yahovah (Jehovah) and Michael. Brigham Young taught that in order to create a world a man would have received his exaltation as a God. At a Special Conference held on 28 August 1852 he explained it as an important key to understanding:

After men have got their exaltations and their crowns—have become Gods, even the sons of God—are made Kings of kings and Lord of lords, they have the power then of propagating their species in spirit; and that is the first of their operations with regard to organizing a world. Power is then given to them to organize the elements, and then commence the organization of tabernacles. How can they do it? Have they to go to that earth? Yes, an Adam will have to go there, and he cannot do without Eve; he must have Eve to commence the work of generation, and they will go into the garden, and continue to eat and drink of the fruits of the corporeal world, until this grosser matter is diffused sufficiently through their celestial bodies to enable them, according to the established laws, to produce mortal tabernacles for their spiritual children. This is a key for you” (Journal of Discourses 6:275).

Some individual journals mention the teachings of Brigham Young about Adam/Michael but not all church members believed in Adam being God or understood what he was talking about. Apostle Orson Pratt opposed the doctrine from 1852-1868. It is evident that if the interpretation of the creation Gods was taught in the Nauvoo Temple like Brigham Young was explaining then Pratt probably would have accepted it. But it appears to have first been publicly taught in April 1852.]

Of course, I will be called again a bigot for quoting Mormon doctrine. Yet I suspect a lot of people will be surprised to find that monotheistic “Christian Mormon’s” aren’t quite sure which God actually created Earth.


414 posted on 05/05/2007 7:01:20 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: FastCoyote

You almost certainly hold personal beliefs that others would find equally bizarre and outrageous.


416 posted on 05/05/2007 7:03:36 AM PDT by JCEccles (“Politics ain’t beanbag” Finley Peter Dunne)
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To: FastCoyote
But if you think we are looneys, did you know Adam (of Adam and Eve fame) was also a God, and Eve was just one of his many wives?

So what? I don't think God is going to hold sincere people accountable for doctrine that may or may not false. God is nicer than Christians are.

542 posted on 05/05/2007 3:32:26 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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