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To: FastCoyote
When a presidential candidate believes that me, Joe Voter, is an apostate of my faith, I not only don’t apologize for being “riled up” over that false assertion, but it gets my gall that so many evangelicals, Protestants and Catholics can just lay there, sleepy-eyed, and conclude, “More abuse! Fire away! (I’ll vote for you, anyway).””

Mitt can believe anything he wants to about you (but why would he bother), but you would never know it unless he said so.

I have my own opinions about your posting history on this and other Mormon related threads, but you can't possible fathom what thoughts about you are going through my mind. ;-)

353 posted on 05/04/2007 10:09:03 PM PDT by sevenbak (A LIE travels around the world while the TRUTH is still putting on its boots -Winston Churchill)
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To: sevenbak

“Mitt can believe anything he wants to about you (but why would he bother),”

That’s right, because he’s gonna be a GOD! So he doesn’t have to care.

Now, if I claim I am going to be a God, and don’t give a horse’s patoot what you think, will you vote for me for president?

“I have my own opinions about your posting history on this and other Mormon related threads, but you can’t possible fathom what thoughts about you are going through my mind. ;-)”

Sure I can, you hate my guts.

But don’t hate me for bringing up magic underwear, the Whitehorse Prophecy, Kirtland Bank $3 dollar bills signed by Joseph Smith, crystal gazing, masonic secret handshakes, baptizing the dead, Kolob, Jewish American Indians, secret rites, and a hundred other bizarre doings. It isn’t like I invented that stuff, that’s the history and beliefs of current Mormons. I don’t have to make them look foolish, they are doing that plenty well on their own - you are just mad that I’m pointing out the obvious.

Now is about when you call me a bigot. And I sure am - for example I am bigoted against people who believe 2 + 2 = 5 (my how they scream at me for calling them idiots). You will no doubt call me bigoted for saying anyone who follows a religion based on Egyptian hieroglyphic readings and the prophecy of a crystal gazer don’t have their noggins tied on straight. I will leave it up to you to decide how much sleep I will lose over that defamation of my character.

You know, in all these threads many have assailed my character, but damn few have even tried to say what I was writing about LDS religious beliefs wasn’t founded on Mormon doctrine or direct experience with Mormons. Well, if I am not a liar, then perhaps what stirs up the hornet’s nest is that I strike too near the truth of Mormon behavior.


358 posted on 05/04/2007 10:28:27 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: sevenbak
Mitt can believe anything he wants to about you (but why would he bother), but you would never know it unless he said so.

What? (Ya think LDS only practice this deep, hushed, inwardly esoteric kind of spirituality?)

WHISPERED: [I'll help ya out...it's...it's called a public "profession of faith." And, believe it or not, professions of faith tend not to be tucked away on chicken scratch deep inside someone's soul. (As a matter of fact, I would say that the word "testimony." has probably been on the tip of somebody's tongue if you were to check w/your fellow ward & stake folks)]

Let me give you an example: The "testimony" might include something to the effect that "I believe that Joseph Smith is a prophet of God."

And of course, Joseph's johnny-come-lately description (written years after the BoM) of his first spiritual encounter with unnamed "personages" is the foundation for any Mormon's profession of faith. Pull out your Pearl of Great Price...Joseph Smith - History, and go down to verse 19:

"I was answered that I must join none of them [churches], for they were all awrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt."

There ya go: LDS "scripture" of the First Vision. Now, do you think Mitt denies this revelation from Joseph Smith? Are you hinting to anyone here that Mitt's taken his pen and drawn a line thru his Pearl of Great Price?

360 posted on 05/04/2007 10:29:13 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: sevenbak; DelphiUser; FastCoyote; needlenose_neely; colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; Colofornian
but you can't possible fathom what thoughts about you are going through my mind. ;-)

Seven there were many admonitions on the other thread about personal attacks. Just a gentle reminder ;-)

402 posted on 05/05/2007 6:11:10 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I'm proud to be a FREDHEAD. Run Fred Run!)
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