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To: Colofornian
I base my observation on your posts. You have put so many hurdles in place no practicing Mormon could ever get your vote.

Of course Romney "flunks historic Christianity" - he's a Mormon and has different beliefs about that than you and me. What possible bearing that could have to his fitness to be Commander in Chief escapes me.

306 posted on 05/04/2007 3:00:33 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker
I base my observation on your posts. You have put so many hurdles in place no practicing Mormon could ever get your vote.

First of all, those aren't "my" hurdles. (They're self-imposed--at least most of them are).

Secondly those "hurdles" are not comprehensive. Example: Let's say the Democrats elect a WICCA witch. Is the scenario of Dems ushering forward a witch such a "hurdle" mounted by some remote FREEPER that might keep her/him from getting FREEPER votes? (Hardly)

My point is that no matter how many "hurdles" you think I've raised, there's always the chance (well, OK, likelihood), that if you were to ask me in the Summer of '08, I could present even more "hurdles" about a Dem or Independent candidate.

Are all the hurdles I could ever come up with...be it a Repub, Dem, or Indy...simply of my construction? Or could it possibly, just possibly, be the fact that we have few presidential candidates right now which don't have MASSIVE baggage issues?

This is no small issue. Why do I say that? Because I've already seen on far too many of these threads comments made by even (especially) Christians who are outright castigating the voter merely for pointing out that the candidates for EOTUS (Emperor of the US) are missing a few vital pieces of clothing.

If most of these candidates are partially to fully "nude" no matter how folks like to "play dolls" and try to "dress them up," may I suggest that I didn't have anything to do w/denuding them. [My pointing out their state of (un)dress doesn't make my finger responsible for the whole slate of affairs.]

315 posted on 05/04/2007 3:20:01 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: colorado tanker; FastCoyote
Of course Romney "flunks historic Christianity" - he's a Mormon and has different beliefs about that than you and me. What possible bearing that could have to his fitness to be Commander in Chief escapes me.

I guess you weren't listening when I was going over the "vulnerability to deception" argument. If a person is vulnerable to MAJOR deceptions in the most important aspect of his life--his faith, what questions does that raise about discernment issues in other areas of his faith?

I mean it's simple. Do I want an astute, perceptive "can't pull one over on me" president in an age of terrorism? I mean, do I really have to drag out a laundry list of what this man most firmly believes & subscribes to at his most in-depth core? (I think Fast Coyote had a short but good list this week on another thread of what he said "wacky Mormons" believe...maybe he can pull it out & inject it into this thread).

I mean you read a list like the one Fast Coyote had & you think, "Wow! How was anyone able to pull the wool over the eyes of folks on these things?"

Also you referred to "hurdles" I've raised...well, if you go back & read over those carefully you'll note that most of them have a question mark at the end--meaning that they are open questions. (They weren't framed in dogmatic statements).

Finally, let's assume we put in place an LDS or a Scientology or a JW prez. Let's just say 2009-2012 is a slump, draught phase for terrorism and national and world crises. Prayer over major incidents is less of an issue. Figuring out ("reading") Islamic threats peters out. "Fitness" on these matters becomes a non-issue. What bearing would, say, a Scientologist or JW or LDS president have upon this nation?

Well, as secondary concerns, it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.

AFTER getting in office (certainly not necessarily before), Scientology or JWism or LDSism would be plastered in a positive way all over the media. The Scientology or Watchtower or SLC spin machines would launch into full cycle. Capitalization would be the operative word.

By 2012, this nation would greatly accelerate membership in whatever cult was given access to the White House. And that, doesn't simply breed national consequences, but eternal ones.

The more LDS you have who believe that very few will actually wind up permanently in hell, then the more spiritual surprises will arise. [LDS post-world scenario is that just about all folks will eventually go into one of three degrees of heaven, even if a bunch of folks make this "stop-off" at a place call 666 Mockingbird Lane, otherwise known as "Spirit Prison." It's "Spirit Prison" where supposedly the folks baptized by proxy get a "second chance."]

If you don't believe this to be true, then you do not know what the SLC or Scientology HQ spin machines are capable of.

323 posted on 05/04/2007 3:47:33 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: colorado tanker
Of course Romney "flunks historic Christianity"

He flunks orthodox Christianity as it exists today, but certainly not early historic Christianity.

DU, care to come out and play?

346 posted on 05/04/2007 9:44:40 PM PDT by sevenbak (A LIE travels around the world while the TRUTH is still putting on its boots -Winston Churchill)
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To: colorado tanker; DelphiUser
Of course Romney "flunks historic Christianity"

He flunks orthodox Christianity as it exists today, but certainly not early historic Christianity.

DU, care to come out and play?

347 posted on 05/04/2007 9:45:41 PM PDT by sevenbak (A LIE travels around the world while the TRUTH is still putting on its boots -Winston Churchill)
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