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To: Colofornian
And still you do not answer the questions straightly. Yes or no will suffice:

Does an infant who dies unbaptized go to hell? Yes or no

Does an individual who does not confess the name of Christ while in this life, though he has never heard or been taught about Jesus Christ, go to hell? Yes or no

Certainly this is not too difficult. I just want your perspective. I don't need a sermon.

2,409 posted on 05/14/2007 9:47:31 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: DanielLongo
Yes or no will suffice: Does an infant who dies unbaptized go to hell? Yes or no

What? Am I a God who issue edicts as to who goes to hell? (Did God die & vacate His throne?) ["Hey, you, yeah, you, the baby with the motormouth. Hell's flames are knocking on your door."]

Time for you to ask serious questions about your faith.

As for me, I did answer: 2 Sam. 12:23 shows that David expected to go where his infant son goes. As for you, you wouldn't then answer the implied question. If LDS believe that murderers aren't saved, then this whole thing is left open-ended for them. Hummmm...is David in hell? Here Luke says David was a "man after mine own heart" and was one who "shall fulfil ALL my will" (Acts 13:22) and Mormon theology places him and Moses smack dab in the middle of hell?

Does an individual who does not confess the name of Christ while in this life, though he has never heard or been taught about Jesus Christ, go to hell? Yes or no

You mean does an "ungodly" and "unrighteous" individual (Rom. 1:18) who suppresses the truth (Rom. 1:18) who rejects the evident natural revelation of God (Rom. 1:20) & therefore did not glorify Him (Rom. 1:21) nor give Him thanks (Rom. 1:21) but instead followed a foolish heart & empty fantasies (Rom. 1:21-22)...does such a person who over his entire lifetime rejects whatever light God has given him go to hell? Well, what does it mean then when Paul says that against an above person "The wrath of God is revealed from heaven...?" (A picnic?)

You know, I don't understand why LDS believe in a baptism by proxy (2nd chance) when folks have second and third and fourth and fifth, etc. chances throughout their entire lives. Every day is a new chance to receive God's mercy and grace! Why does the LDS baptism by proxy trump Christ's death on the cross by proxy?

What is so magical about

(A) a baptism by proxy & then the gospel offered to that person in spirit prison; versus

(B) Jesus dying on the cross by proxy & then the "narrow" gospel offered to that person in bondage?

It seems to me there are some parallels there--unnecessary duplication. And when you have unnecessary duplication, that is spiritual bureaucracy that needs to be eliminated.

(There. You got a sermon, anyway :) )

2,426 posted on 05/15/2007 6:37:12 AM PDT by Colofornian
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