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To: tantiboh; MHGinTN; greyfoxx39
I pray for you MHG, because it seems to me that you have some sort of pent-up anger or frustration that causes you to lash out - to take insult and offense, and to assume the worst in others. This goes beyond our theological disagreements. If a person is determined to see a particular group of people as “arrogant” and “condescending,” it’s so much easier to find examples of such.

This is the most arrogant and self-serving post I have ever seen on FR. I have read many threads on the Religion board here and MHGinTN is one of the foremost authority, kindest, and best read posters on protestant Christianity here.

That you would personally attack someone as good and as honest as MHGnTN tells me a great deal about you. You are an insecure, young whippersnapper, and could learn a great deal from my dear friend.

He started out as a Romney defender, and posted his opinion that Romney's candidacy should not be about religion. Then he met this group of Mormonism "defenders" on FreeRepublic. It is you, and those like you, who totally changed his mind.

I'm sorry that some of us have had to muddy our feet in this fight. We don't think the Romney candidacy is good for our party. It is our right to vehemently defend our position.

2,391 posted on 05/14/2007 5:56:46 PM PDT by colorcountry (The smiley lies.)
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To: colorcountry; tantiboh; MHGinTN
MHGinTN is one of the foremost authority, kindest, and best read posters on protestant Christianity here.

I have seen posts from him to you, where he has bent over backward to try and have a civil discussion with you. You owe him a very large apology IMO>

2,393 posted on 05/14/2007 6:01:28 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Fred sez "I'm not interested in being the tallest midget in the room.." RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: colorcountry; MHGinTN; DelphiUser

“That you would personally attack someone as good and as honest as MHGnTN tells me a great deal about you.”

So be it, CC; I’ve read many places where you have stated that you’re praying for another. My attacks were not designed to be personal; but they are my observations of MHG’s behavior in the last few days. He has used the terms “arrogant” and “condescending” many times in the last few days, and this has been meant as a substantive response to those whom he has so labeled.

“You are an insecure, young whippersnapper, and could learn a great deal from my dear friend.”

Insecure? I’m not sure; time will tell, I suppose. Young? Certainly, though such a trait does have desirable qualities to go with the undesirable, including a sense of idealism. Whippersnapper? Could be; I’ve yet to prove myself in the world, though I do have high hopes. Learn much from MHG? I’m sure I could; indeed, I already have. He’s cogent and intelligent. Still, if he desires to take offense, there is little I can do to stop him; I’m certain we would have me do nothing less than speak my mind - to do otherwise would be duplicitous. He often accuses us of “spinning;” well, when I am honest and forthright in my observations, he accuses me of “arrogance.” So be it; it’s not my lookout.

“He started out as a Romney defender, and posted his opinion that Romney’s candidacy should not be about religion.”

That may have been before I was paying attention; in that case, my thanks go out to him.

“It is you, and those like you, who totally changed his mind.”

No, I’m afraid not. It has been his thesis for some time that Romney’s weakness is that the press, etc. will pillory his religion and thereby split the Republican base. That religion did not change since this discussion began. If his position has shifted, then it has been other forces that did it.

“I’m sorry that some of us have had to muddy our feet in this fight.”

Me, too. I’d much rather not discuss my faith in such a forum.

“We don’t think the Romney candidacy is good for our party.”

That’s fine; you’re certainly welcome to the position. In many ways, I agree with you. But, then, that hasn’t been the source of contention, has it?

“It is our right to vehemently defend our position.”

Indeed; just as it is my right to defend my faith. None of us is perfect, and we’ve all stepped on toes along the way. That’s why we have charity.


2,394 posted on 05/14/2007 6:29:17 PM PDT by tantiboh
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To: colorcountry

It isn’t just that a Romney candidacy isn’t good for our party. It isn’t good for our nation. Only those who can see the bigger picture of politics understand why.


2,395 posted on 05/14/2007 6:32:33 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
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