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To which of Joesph Smith's accounts of the first vision do you refer; the suppressed 1832 account where he only mentions Jesus appearing to him or the 1835 account which mentions "angels" but not God or Jesus?

I refer to the one I linked to previously on this thread, the only version canonized by the church, not hearsay versions written by Colofornian (although his is amusing) or anyone else.

You believe in the credibility of a man who said:

I believe a man who died knowing that recanting his testimony would save him over anyone else’s pajama clad person, hiding behind a screen name.

A flesh and bone Father, or a Father who is a personage of spirit?

Flesh and Bone personages also have a spirit, just as you are a spirit.

Written by Joseph Smith in 1835, why was the following deleted in 1921?

I was not consulted in any editing, if there was any, (Do you have a link to a credible source on this?) nor do I really care since “Personage of Spirit” and “Personage of Flesh and Bone” are equally accurate since he has both, but nice try.

Since that was written in 1835 why does LDS today teach that that Joseph Smith discovered that both God the Father and the Son have bodies of flesh and bone when he saw them in his First Vision in 1820, and why did the LDS delete the passage in 1921?

Maybe it was deleted, if it was, because a few people became confused by it. That is one of the things about having a modern day prophet, you continue to get direction.

Why would anyone be inclined to accept a characterization of ancient church history from people who can't even get their own comparatively recent history straight?

I am not confused about history my FRiend.

I cannot help but notice your lack of linkage, perhaps you could not find a web based source for your bald unsupported assertions. I would be happy to help you look, if you will just post the information on the paper based book, I will devote at least 1/2 hour looking for it for you.

I also note that the substance of my post is completely untouched by you, was any of my links in error? Did Constantine not call, open, attend and close the council at Nicea? Was he not a pagan? Did he not then make the Catholic church into the State church of Rome? Please, rather tan filling the screen with red herrings and innuendo provide us with some substance with which to continue a conversation.

I hope you have a wonderful and illuminating day.

I refer to the one I linked to previously on this thread, the only version canonized by the church, not hearsay versions written by Colofornian (although his is amusing) or anyone else.

Hey, we have more in common here than you think. I also find these other non-canonized versions amusing, too!!! :)

Especially another version from Joseph Smith's own diary, written by his own hand, and then also the 1841 JS version that he wrote in 1841 to John Wentworth, editor of the Chicago Democrat.

BTW, why do you find these versions amusing? And why do you reduce one he dictated to F.G. Williams as mere "hearsay." (Can we throw out as suspect everything else JS dictated?...Boy, that would sure be a chunk of material, wouldn't it?)

So, "hearsay" wise I guess that only leaves a Warren Cowdery-recorded diary on behalf of JS, and then what all the LDS prophets said they heard 2nd hand about that vision. (I guess they, too, are "suspect" witnesses, eh?)

I refer to the one I linked to previously on this thread, the only version canonized by the church, not hearsay versions written by Colofornian (although his is amusing) or anyone else

Nothing hearsay about it:

Joseph Smith's Handwritten First Vision

Smith's first draft of his history. Only Jesus was mentioned as appearing.

History, 1832, Joseph Smith Letterbook 1, p.3 Handwriting of Joseph Smith.

marvilous even in the likeness of him who created him (them) and when I considered upon these things my heart exclaimed well hath thewise man said the (it is a) fool (that) saith in his heart there is no God my heart exclaimed all all these bear testimony and bespeak an omnipotant and omnipreasant power a being who makith Laws and decreeeth and bindeth all things in their bounds who filleth Eternity who was and is and will be from all Eternity to Eternity and when I considered all these things and that (that) being seeketh such to worship him as worship him in spirit and in truth therefore I cried unto the Lord for mercy for there was none else to whom I could go and to obtain mercy and the Lord heard my cry in the wilderness and while in (the) attitude of calling upon the Lord (in the 16th year of my age) a piller of fire light above the brightness of the sun at noon day come down from above and rested upon me and I was filled with the spirit of god and the (Lord) opened the heavens upon me and I saw the Lord and he spake unto me saying Joseph (my son) thy sins are forgiven thee. go thy (way) walk in my statutes and keep my commandments behold I am the Lord of glory I was crucifyed for the world that all those who believe on my name may have Eternal life (behold) the world lieth in sin and at this time and none doeth good no not one they have turned asside from the gospel and keep not (my) commandments they draw near to me with their lips while their hearts are far from me and mine anger is kindling against the inhabitants of the earth to visit them acording to th[e]ir ungodliness and to bring to pass that which (hath) been spoken by the mouth of the prophets and Ap[o]stles behold and lo I come quickly as it [is] written of me in the cloud (clothed) in the glory of my Father and my soul was filled with love and for many days I could reioice with great Joy and the Lord was with me but [I] could find none that would believe the hevnly vision nevertheless I pondered these things in my heart about that time my mother and but after many days

Cordially,