[FastCoyote]

So you agree that the Urimm and Thurimm I hold in my hand right not are able to see that Joseph Smith was a fraud?

[Saundra Duffy]

If Joseph Smith were a fraud, trust me, he’d have changed his ways in order to avoid the fierce opposition.

[sevenbak]

If you have a Urim and Thummin in your hand, that would make you a seer and a prophet just like Moses. Now that you have them, tell me how they work and how you got them?

If you are going to mock things that are sacred, that’s your choice, but they are biblical in nature and were given to ancient prophets as well as modern ones to do the Lord’s work. You have the references I posted earlier. Why don’t you go read them and educate yourself.