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To: Colofornian
First of all, how have you quoted a verse here that really says anything different than the other BoM verse after grace kicking in only AFTER you've done everything you can do? What does this verse from Hell . say? That folks are restored unto grace how? ACCORDING TO THEIR WORKS!!!!

Leave it to Joe Smith to just absolutely butcher the concept of grace! Grace means "favor" and "gift." It's not done according to merit. It's not earned. It's not meted out according to works, or according to all you can do.

James would disagree wit you: (and you don't have to shout)

James 2:

17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the friend of God.

24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

25 Likewise also was not aRahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?

26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

1,413 posted on 05/08/2007 11:50:23 PM PDT by sevenbak (A LIE travels around the world while the TRUTH is still putting on its boots -Winston Churchill)
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To: sevenbak; MHGinTN

You misread James as we’ve pointed out many times previously.

Any Christian worth his salt must read James exegesically with all the referrences to Grace in the Bible.

So obviously, works are a result of Grace and not the other way round like Mormons believe. We do good for God - - God does not do good because of our deeds.

Poor seven, you will continue to try to earn God’s Grace, and you will continue to offend Christ’s sacrifice.


1,441 posted on 05/09/2007 5:43:02 AM PDT by colorcountry (It is wrong to criticize the leaders of the church even if the criticism is true ~Dallin Oaks)
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