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To: MHGinTN
Sorry, forgot to highlight the relevant verses.

Jesus wasn’t “created” He was the only begotten son, first spiritually, then physically. I know this may seem like a contradiction, but maybe this will help you understand where we are coming from:

D&C 93:
21 And now, verily I say unto you, I was in the beginning with the Father, and am the firstborn;
22 And all those who are begotten through me are partakers of the glory of the same, and are the church of the Firstborn.
23 Ye were also in the beginning with the Father; that which is spirit, even the Spirit of truth;
24 And truth is knowledge of things as they are, and as they were, and as they are to come;
25 And whatsoever is more or less than this is the spirit of that wicked one who was a liar from the beginning.
26 The Spirit of truth is of God. I am the Spirit of truth, and John bore record of me, saying: He received a fullness of truth, yea, even of all truth;
27 And no man receiveth a fullness unless he keepeth his commandments.
28 He that keepeth his commandments receiveth truth and light, until he is glorified in truth and dknoweth all things.
29 Man was also in the beginning with God. intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be.
30 All truth is independent in that sphere in which God has placed it, to act for itself, as all intelligence also; otherwise there is no existence.

31 Behold, here is the agency of man, and here is the condemnation of man; because that which was from the beginning is plainly manifest unto them, and they receive not the light.
32 And every man whose spirit receiveth not the alight is under condemnation.
33 For man is spirit. The elements are eternal, and spirit and element, inseparably connected, receive a fulness of joy;

1,169 posted on 05/07/2007 10:51:21 PM PDT by sevenbak (A LIE travels around the world while the TRUTH is still putting on its boots -Winston Churchill)
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To: sevenbak; P-Marlowe; Colofornian
BTW, if Jesus and Lucifer are brothers, is Lucifer also equal?

I suspect Joe Smith (or the power behind Joe's 'inspirations') couldn't anticipate the developments in Physics and Cosmology which have brought the notion of 'big bang' and a beginning to the entire spacetime universe into existence else he would have handled the 'everlasting to everlasting' in the spirit realm differently (spirits are created by GOD), maybe making lucifer a created being but not the brother of Jesus. Genesis has been accurate all along, we just didn't know how it was accurate until these 'latter days'.

Bless you sevenbak, you're still caught in the 'created being can be equal with God' rut. Jesus IS GOD in the flesh and IS the Word, and IS the very Creator of all that is, thus He is not a created being, He IS Creator. Jesus is one of three ways God manifests and none of the three is created for He has always been and IS greater than the creation or created.

Manana ...

1,175 posted on 05/07/2007 11:05:33 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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