Posted on 05/04/2007 5:46:36 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
There was a little branch or break off group of Amish called Shermanites and their leader could go into any home at any time and take any woman when he felt like it.
How these types of 'religions' get going is amazing.
The title of this opus, “They shoot Mormons, don’t they”, should be changed to “They shot this opus all to H*ll and back”.
LOL!
Did you forget that King was a Baptist, of one the denominations you tend to slander?
No one ever denied him admission to a private prep school or Harvard because he was an Irish Catholic. No one ever denied him a job because he was an Irish Catholic. No one ever threw rocks at him or called him a “fish-eating mick.”
http://www.sparknotes.com/biography/jfk/section1.html
I don’t know how many Mormons were killed. It would seem that somebody has compiled actual numbers, but despite diligent searching I’ve been unable to locate any such compilation.
Which allows people to continue to claim “thousands” of dead.
Apparently the single largest death toll was at Haun’s Mill, where 18 died.
Getting from this to “thousands” is quite a jump, but Mormons seem to have little difficulty making it.
If you want to make such a claim, I’d like to see some documentation for it.
Kennedy may have grown up with privilege, but he was never accepted in the higher reaches of Boston society - the world of old Back Bay and Beacon Hill, the old WASP families like the Cabots, the Lodges, the Peabodys, etc.
General anti-Catholic prejudice was almost universal in the US in the 19th century and persisted, though diminished, well into the mid-20th century. 19th Century anti-Catholic feeling had some basis in fact, in that the Roman Catholic Church was then incredibly hostile to liberalism (in the 19th century sense of promoting economic and political liberty and religious tolerance) and was a deeply reactionary force opposed to the American experiment. Most Americans in the 17th-19th and 20th centuries until near the end, were either Protestants (if churched) or of Protestant stock though unchurched.
In the late 19th and first half and a bit of the 20th centuries, in many cities (where most Catholics lived) close to a majority of Catholic children attend parochial schools and then Catholic colleges. It was possible well into the 1960s for a Protestant or Catholic to go through most of their lives and have almost no social or school contact - other than impersonal contacts in business or on the street - with the other faith.
We know enough about what happened at MM to know that Mormons talked the emigrants into surrendering and then gunned them down on signal. In the long history of America perhaps the most despicable and dishonorable event.
You see, the Mormons made the mistake of sparing some of the children under eight, who later gave testimony.
About the only thing we don’t know for sure about MM is whether B. Young specifically ordered it or not.
Re: Catholics. I should have located the issue more specifically to the frontier, since most anti-Catholic sentiment was in the cities and was as much anti-Irish and economic as it was religious.
Even so, I don’t recall any “extermination orders” or massive mililtia actions or expulsions of Catholics from entire states.
Because voting is a private task, how is it that when you punch your card, touch the screen or pull the lever that you care doing this to “prove” something to another person?
Was it true?
Sorry. I have personally heard many anti-Mormon sermons preached from the pulpit.
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Many? Can you do a bit more to quantify? Have you experienced this recently? In what part of the country?What specific denomination of Christianity were you attending at the times you heard these sermons?
You throw a pretty hefty (and totally non-specific) charge out there, so a little in the way of backup info would go a long way.
I agree that one should not vote against a person because they are Mormon but your paper goes beyond that point.
I would like for you to explain what the Mormon religion thinks about other Christian religions? Do they exist? Can there be a Christian religion outside the Mormon church? Is theology of these other Christian religions doctrinally sound? If the Mormon religions claims that these other theologies are unsound, then they are claiming that these other religions are not Christian. How does this differ from the claims you attribute to those evangelical leaders?
Research the “No Nothings.” They amended the Massachusetts constitution...and their anti Catholic poison is still there.
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The establishment of government schools and the hatefully anti-Catholic Blaine Amendments to many state constitutions are entire due to anti-Catholic bigotry.
I think the LDS faith is so inconsequential that most churches never find a need to preach against it. Just like they don’t say anything about the Jehovah’s Witnesses. There are other issues that are more pressing.
You are so correct.
The only time I have ever heard the word ‘Mormon’ in my church was when an elderly lady, in Sunday School, asked us to pray for her daughter who was going to marry a Mormon.
It wasn’t an issue when Romney’s father tried to run for president.
I think you will find that there is more negativity and "rejection" directed at evangelicals than any other religious group. We're regularly called "Bible-thumpers" and "snake-handlers" and American "Taliban." I don't recall hearing this kind of description of either Mormans or Catholics. The evangelicals self-description as "Fundamentalists" which was coined over a 100 years ago to describe the importance of the "fundamentals" of the faith (Divinity of Christ, his virgin birth, his ressurection, the human condition of sinfulness, God as Creator, etc.), now is widely used to describe beheaders and torturers. How sweet.
Would you vote for an atheist? Would you vote for a Muslim? Does the truth about God and man matter to you? Mormonism is worse than a mere cult because it purports to be Christianity in face of every historical definition. How can I trust a man who firmly embraces so profound a deception? Electing a Mormon President is not tolerance of Mormonism, it is a mainstreaming endorsement. As a Christian I believe that government officials are "ministers of God". A Mormon President would be a minister of a false god. I think Hewitt has it wrong. I don't fit into any of his categories. I will simply not be responsible for putting a cultist enemy of God between God and our nation regardless of the consequences. If you don't think your vote will be judged by the God who judges "every idle word", think again.
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
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