They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious Bigotry, alive and well today

Saundra Duffy

[tantiboh]

“My view is not to impose a single federal rule on the entire nation — a one-size-fits-all approach — but instead allow states to make their own decisions in this regard.”

Isn’t this generally the official conservative position of Roe v. Wade?

[Afronaut]

"During the dark time of American history when slavery was flourishing and when Native Americans were forced from their lands, the pioneers of the LDS Church also suffered at the hands of unscrupulous politicians, governmental leaders, and angry hate-filled mobs. “In the face of relentless persecution, Joseph Smith, the founder of the church, had led his flock to Illinois. There they had established the town of Nauvoo, which by the mid-1840’s had become the largest city in Illinois with over 15,000 people. . . In June 1844, a mob of non-Mormons broke into the jail where Smith was being held and killed both him and his brother. . .The Mormons abandoned Nauvoo in the spring of 1846 as anti-Mormons pounded the town with cannon, destroying the Great Temple. In a well-coordinated migration, 15,000 Mormons moved in stages to the Great Salt Lake.” Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 334-335) Many walked all the way and many died along the way, including innocent babes.

Joseph Smith at one time was tarred and feathered by a mob. No jury, no trial, no judge – and they had planned to castrate him, too. On October 27, 1838, the then governor of Missouri issued an “extermination order”: “The Mormons must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated or driven from the State if necessary . . .” Far West History (n.d.) Please note that the order called for exterminating “Mormons” making no distinction between men, women and children, and indeed women and children were subject to the extermination order. "<p> This is a load. If anyone want to take 20 minutes and find out the non-revisionist, historical facts about what Joesph Smith was up to in his last years on earth, you will see a picture of a deranged man, not some poor victim of HATE filled mobs and politicians. <p>

What a bunch of garbage!

"In the face of relentless persecution?" You are joking right?

In the summer of 1842 rumors circulated in Nauvoo regarding Joseph Smith’s polygamy. Joseph published a statement in his own defense: “We are charged with advocating a plurality of wives...now this is as false as the many other ridiculous charges which are brought against us. No sect has a great reverence for the laws of matrimony...we practice what we preach.”

Please click on thie link to see what this man really practiced: LINK

Finally in late spring 1844, William resolved to take Joseph’s polygamy public. As polygamy was against the law, William filed a lawsuit against Joseph for living “in an open state of adultery” with Maria Lawrence. The following Sunday Joseph commented on William’s suit in his sermon, “Another indictment has been got up against me...What a thing it is for a man to be accused of committing adultery, and having seven wives, when I can only find one.” By this time, Joseph had married at least thirty-four women.

Joesph Smith was a pervert, a liar and a wife swapper.

[NittanyLion]

As a Roman Catholic, I find it appalling that some people would not vote for Romney simply because he’s Mormon.

[tantiboh]

“How many Mormons are voting for Romney just because he is a Mormon? Are they “loons” also?”

Yep. I’m still evaluating the man, to speak for myself. I’m beginning to like what I see, though. Still, the abortion issue bugs me. I think he should have been publicly pro-life the entire time.

[GrandEagle]

I was commenting on what seemed to be the tone of the article, hence the reference to Al and Jesse.
Again, I may have my "head in the sand" (hopefully not somewhere else) but his religious affiliation seems to be more important to the media that is it actual voters.
The worse case would be if, as brought out in a few other posts, people either voted for or against him because of this affiliation.

Cordially,
GE

[Netizen]

Isn’t this generally the official conservative position of Roe v. Wade?

Not according to most of the candidates last night!

Some things can't be left to the states to choose, like slavery. We already know where that got us.

Most God fearing people are opposed to abortion and don't compromise it with 'it's ok, as long as it happens in a different state.

[JRochelle]

The number of religious conservatives who won’t vote for Romney because of his religion is far outweighed by the number of Mormon who will vote for him because he is mormon.

But if the author of this clap wants to see bigotry, wait until Romney goes up against Hillary. She will do things with his religion that he can’t even imagine.

ANd it will work. Even in the early polls, Romney always looses to Hillary.

[SwedishConservative]

Beeing a mormon is not just standing up and saying your a mormon. If you, truly, are a mormon you agree with and live by mormon values and principles. Of course other mormons are likely to vote for you then, since they share your values. Is that voting mormon, or just voting for a guy with the same ideas as you?

Contrary, people of a different creed might not agree with the mormon values and likely wont vote for a mormon. As that voting anti-mormon or just not voting for someone you disagree with?

JFK had a nice sentiment, but unlikely. There will always be people who share similar ideas, and who will band together under some name and support eachother. That guy is presbyterian/vegan/mormon/federalist/member of the ACLU, and so am I. Therefor I will vote for him since we likely share the same values. Bloc-voting will never go away.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

For the record, the Mormon bashers know full well that the official name of Romney’s church is “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints” and the members should rightfully be called “members of the LDS Church” but the words “Mormon” and “Mormonism” have an aura of negativity so they prefer to use the “M” word as if it were dirty.

For the record, when I met our friend who is a LDS bishop, he called himself a Mormon, and his religion Mormonism. He didn't consider it a derogatory term.

[AxelPaulsenJr]

Romney doesn’t stand a chance.

[Boston Blackie]

As a Roman Catholic, I find it appalling that some people would not vote for Romney simply because he’s Mormon.

It is disappointing that we, as a nation, must continue discussing a candidate's religion as a qualification for POTUS. That should have been put to rest in 1960.

[Afronaut]

"Joseph Smith at one time was tarred and feathered by a mob. No jury, no trial, no judge – and they had planned to castrate him, too."

"In the summer of 1831 the Johnson family took Joseph and Emma Smith into their home as boarders, and soon thereafter the prophet purportedly bedded young Marinda. Unfortunately, the liaison did not go unnoticed, and a gang of indignant Ohioans-including a number of Mormons-resolved to castrate Joseph so that he would be disinclined to commit such acts of depravity in the future" (90).

What a little facts can do to someones fictionary tales.

[weegee]

Why is Harry Reid, Democrat Majority Leader, immune from the Mormon Bashing in the media?

Is it okay because he hates America more than he loves Mormonism?

[AxelPaulsenJr]

Good point! I’ve been to Lutheran, Baptist, Methodist and Catholic services and have never heard any of them even mention Mormons.

As have I, and never once was the Mormons mentioned. This purported "issue" of this "paper" is just an excuse to push Romney's candidacy.

[Netizen]

They’re lucky they didn’t kill him. Back then they took the law into their own hands a lot.

[P-Marlowe]

They’re lucky they didn’t kill him.

They did kill him.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

I echo your sentiment. In my entire life I have never heard anyone from the pulpit preaching against Mormons. Even those that I knew didn’t like the LDS didn’t preach it to the congregation.

[CholeraJoe]

I'll concede that there was anti-Catholic bias in the mid-1800s during the time of the Know Nothings. I fail to connect how that might have impacted a privileged rich kid like Jack Kennedy growing up in the 20's and 30's.

No one ever denied him admission to a private prep school or Harvard because he was an Irish Catholic. No one ever denied him a job because he was an Irish Catholic. No one ever threw rocks at him or called him a "fish-eating mick."

[what's up]

When I was a Mormon (35 - 40 years ago), we didn't try to pretend that we were just another Christian Church like the Methodists or the Baptists. We were, in fact, the ONLY TRUE CHURCH and all other Churches were in a state of Apostasy.

Yes, ole Joe Smith was one STRANGE dude. He taught that all other christian churches were heretical.

Personally, I think he founded Mormonism just to give him a justification to have sex with many women. Reminds me of Mohammed.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

The issue is different than that. Of course Romney can run as president. The nation hasn’t said to him, “Only Mormons need apply.”

The voters have freedom to chose. The issue is that the electorate is free to chose which candidate they like, and they can use any reasoning of their own to determine which man is best suited for the job. It is not unlawful to reject a person based on any factor, their wealth, their marital status, their honesty, their public works, their faith system, their history, etc.