Posted on 05/04/2007 5:46:36 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
Some with reprobates in our tree prefer to lurk! As they say "All lurk and no play " ... no wait
Ah Ha, But I know which particular skeleton you have in your closet.
He was the start of some of this stuff. ,-)
In all fairness, I don’t know that tantiboh was trying to change my post. It seems to be a flaw in the design of the system, or perhaps a loose nut at the creative end....(moi).
I hope that stupid graphic doesn’t get carried away.
But thanks to however changed it to a party hat smiley. That’s nice.
Yep! He just pushed it a little too far (so to speak).
Thank you for your honest comments. Yes I agree with you, and thank you for saying that the LDS church is not consistent with orthodox Christianity. That’s my main point in my posts. If Mormons know this, that’s what’s important from my perspective.
I think you can imagine then why Christians get ruffled when Mormons call themselves “Christians,” when there are such fundamental differences in our doctrines.
I agree with the Christian above who posted that it is in our hearts to reach out to those who we feel may be outside the Christian faith. God be with you.
“God be with you.”
Likewise to you.
How many generations are you from him?
I am the fifth from John D. Lee. My ancestors in the Church go back six generations.
I guess that curse spoken of in the Old testament about “crimes of the fathers” has long since past for us.
Abigail Adams wrote: “Tell me if I am wrong, but you seem to think that Christians cannot know if they are really Christians or not. I think we can know, and we do know.”
This is Saundra: When I was a Southern Baptist, the same people used to go to the alter to get saved over and over. I never felt sure of my salvation. Once saved always saved . . . ?
Then I got re-baptized into the Pentecostal Church of God (talk about the emotional); I spoke in tongues (although the baptists had warned me that speaking in tongues was from the devil). I was “slain in the spirit” many times. I ended up not liking the fact that the guy in the wheelchair just sat there with a sad confused look on his face while another guy was jumping up and down praising the Lord because he got healed of a headache! The preachers said that it is ALWAYS God’s will for you to be healed so therefore if you didn’t get healed, you just didn’t have enough faith. I heard plenty of anti-Mormon sermons.
I joined Youth With A Mission (Christian missionary group stationed in Kailua-Kona Hawaii, a/k/a University of the Nations) and we “served a mission” for 18 months in Belize Central America during which time my little boy came down with giardia. I felt funny in Belize (Village of Roaring Creek) because as far as I’m concerned the Christians (for example Pastor Ochoa) were better and deeper Christians than we YWAMers could ever hope to be and yet we were sent to “save” them. It was weird. Also went to China, Hong Kong and Okinawa Japan on missionary outreach.
I did not like it that one preacher would preach one thing and another preacher would come along and contradict the other preacher. It made me kind of sick to my stomach. I think I understand how Joseph Smith felt (a little anyway) when he was confused about which church to join and asked the Lord for help.
“You proved nothing only that there is hollow space between your ears!”
The last time I heard a taunt like that was in 2nd grade. Come on restornu, in the spirit of all that is good about Mormons, you must be able to deliver a pitch that hurts worse than a second grade taunt that went out of style in the 60s!
Thanks. I guess I’d be curious to know why Mormons reject orthodox Christianity?
What can I tell you I feel frisky tonight I get that way sometimes...
I need more meow mix!:)
Joseph Smith was told that his name would be known for good and evil throughout the world. He was right about one thing, huh?
“We’ll stop first. As long as our faith isn’t attacked, you won’t hear from us about it. “
Wish I could ignore the problems a Mitt Romney candidacy brings, but after having researched the roots of Mormon theology it is my sincere belief it would be a disaster. There will likely be a million fundamentalists who feel the same way once the campaign gets going, so prepare for ten years of this.
The only good thing about Romney is that he is LDS. Politically he is a what do you get when you cross a RINO and MINO. At least he is not a goober like Huckabee. Gun grabber yes, goober no. Duncan Hunter is the true blue conservative in the race.
I find it interesting, Saundra, that you eventually fled from religion based on emotional appeal, only to settle upon a religion that claims you ought to trust a feeling. You might keep this little suggestion in the back of your mind for future reference when you have doubts about Mormonism: trust in the Lord with all your heart and mind isn't based upon your integrity to keep your promises to God, it is based upon His integrity to keep His promise to you.
Hunter served in Vietnam unlike the draft dodging patrol led by Rudy and Romeny. I thought Klinger from mash was one ugly broad until I saw Rudy in drag.
I have thoroughly enjoyed reading the posts here. At first I started getting all defensive and mad but I have very much appreciated the pro LDS posters gentle thoughtful responses.
I probably need to apologize for my piece which is somewhat hostile and judgmental. (I am such a worm.)
My husband was watching the BYU channel on Direct TV tonight and there was a documentary about LDS members who served in World War II. Hubby was weeping.
I love our Church.
Well, historically speaking, many of the fundamental tenants of orthodox Christianity were determined by the popular vote of people. The assumption that their wisdom was equal to God’s is a shaky one, and some of the results of their decisions are quite clearly extra-Biblical in nature.
Over time, some of the fundamental things were lost or changed.
Does this make adherents of orthodox Christianity bad? Of course not.
We believe that a full restoration of all the lost bits of doctrine was necessary; that God’s wisdom is higher than man’s; and that God continues to speak to His children. This necessarily brings us into sharp relief against orthodoxy on many points.
But on the most important thing - the Lordship and Godship of Jesus Christ - we are united. This brings us together - or should - on many societal issues. All we propose to do is offer to others the opportunity to learn more of what we believe is the truth.
I feel like an idiot defending Romney, but leave him alone for being LDS. true conservatives won’t allow him to get the nomination, but uggh if it happens,I will hold my nose and vote for himm, and he will need to do a kennedyesc speech on religous tolerance so bigots stop persecuting people based on what religion they are. sheesh.
“You would not stop claiming to be a Christian sect, yet your religion has at its heart the assumption that all other Christian sects are apostate and only Mormonism restores the Apostolic aAuthority. THAT will be magnified like you cannot even imagine when Romney comes up against the “D” candidate.”
Here’s the remarkable thing, the apologists here are claiming to be no different than any other Christian church. If that were true, then they would believe it possible for Orthodox Christians to go to heaven. In turn, if you could get to heaven without Joseph Smith and the BOM, then those concepts could be ejected from the Mormon religion and no soul would be lost.
The fact that the Apologists are completely unwilling to give up Joseph Smith thus signifies they believe all other Christians are damned to hell. So it is a bit disingenuous to suggest we cool down our opposition, because they define themselves (when they are truthful) as above and apart from the rest of us.
If the Mormons were worthy of their roots, they’d just quit monkeying around and tell us straight to our faces that we are damned in their eyes. Instead, this will be hidden until the nomination is obtained, at which point Romney will be skewered by the Dems as the Bishop who believes most of America’s voters are an abomination (unless he is a Jack Mormon and just hasn’t told anyone).
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