Posted on 05/04/2007 5:46:36 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
tantiboh: You said church.
RECONRICK: Nahhhhhhhhh, I didn’t say that. I said, “temple”.
Uh, FastCoyote said “Church” in post #1683 to Saundra Duffy...
The Mormon Apologist will not be able to accept it though, because their mind is twisted toward works, not Grace, toward their ability, not God's Grace in Christ. Because they have not a relationship with Him, they cannot fathom His Grace toward them and must substitute their works to make them worthy.
Rather than their living being a gift back to The Father in Heaven because He is within them doing the work of His good pleasure to transform them, Mormons are taking Eve's posture, to take upon themselves the knowledge of what is right and wrong, seeking to establish a 'balance due' to them that God will honor. Islamism does the same thing and accentutates the process with five times per day requirement to bow toward Mecca ... BUT, 'faith is He that calleth you, for He will also do it.' Do what, we may ask the Mormon? And they will reply, 'Don't try to tell ME that I'm not worthy for Him to save me, I am a devout Mormon.' And He will turn to them in that day and say, 'depart from me, I never knew you.'
All the Apologist's twisting of scriptures has shown to me a sad fact about Mormonism, it is designed to blind the adherent from Grace, to be replaced with the pride of self instead of His declared status of our human spirit.
The Mormon is trained to ignore what God calls dead in trespasses and sins, to be replaced/covered over with 'if I do this according to Smithian doctrine another gospel, I can be as God, imbued with the power to define good and evil in my own godhood.'
But there is a hope in all of this: someone so involved in trying to please God in order to earn His Grace is one turned toward Him for fullfilment and thus ripe to hear, perhaps, that God does not expect them to earn that which is so valuable that it took the LIFE of Christ pour out on the Cross to purchase it for them. Such an great gift is always to be beyond their ability to earn it else scripture would not have stated so clearly, 'it is by Grace you are saved, that not of yourself lest any man should boast.'
Now, to read further ...
Reckon Joe was wrong saying the BoM was the most perfect book on earth.
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Your sarcasm falls flat and if you don’t want to value the Book of Mormon it is at you own peril in greater scheme of things!
Hey guys you might find this report interesting:
Haplogroup X is an exception to this pattern of limited geographical distribution. It is found, generally at low frequencies, in both West Eurasians (Richards et al. 2000) and some northern groups of Native Americans.
URL:http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1180497
Interesting how it juxtaposes the eastern Asian genetic connection.
‘Worthy is the lamb’ is something the Mormon mind cannot allow to sink in because they are so focused on their works making them worthy.
Huh?
There you go again reading things that are not there....
and your point?????
Did someone forget to tell you Christ is risen?
So, in other words, you are saying nothing good comes from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints?
Brilliant analogy! But the Mormon mind cannot allow the clarity to settle in else the Mormon will have doubts which are of course only to be sown toward the faith of others and never allowed to surface in the Mormon heart of confusion. There are those who were Chrsitians before they succumbed to the seeds of doubt sown by the Mormon proselytizers. For them the awakening to see Mormonism as anti-Christian is more difficult because they have chosen to suppress the still small voice wihtin. So they write diatribes about how persecuted Mormonism is, never guessing they are fabricating a dungeon for their own mind.
Girl, NOTHING comes from a congregation. The kindnesses of Mormon individuals is legendary ... but so is the behavior of Buddhists and Ba’hais, for these believers are dedicated to kind deeds to all and peace at all costs. Are these faiths equal to Mormonism because their works are equal to or greater than Mormons? You are focused upon works, not upon Grace. Try reading Abigail Adams’s posts above, with an eye to discerning the fundamental truth in them regarding organizational righteousness as opposed to individuals receiving His Grace.
Delphi, don’t you feel Abigail Adams post was to leave one feeling anesthetized!:)
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