They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious Bigotry, alive and well today

Saundra Duffy

[Netizen]

"But those who are considered worthy of taking part in that age WILL NEITHER MARRY NOR BE GIVEN IN MARRIAGE...

Good point and post. Totally destroys the notion of 'celestial marriages'.

[tantiboh]

I have heard of instances of people who publicly denounce the LDS Church being excommunicated; frankly, I don’t know exactly where the line is drawn. My impression has always been that one would have to be pretty blatant, as in publish an anti-Mormon book.

Simple criticism won’t do it; inactivity won’t do it; going to another church won’t do it. I don’t think it’s something a person could do “by accident.”

However, I’m not qualified to give you a perfect answer to your point.

[greyfoxx39]

I am unable to find the source right now, will do some research.

[tantiboh]

“Is Mormonism just another Christian Sect?

Is it Protestant or Catholic?”

Yes. No.

[Netizen]

You know, don’t bother responding. You Mormon apologists are too devious to add yet another twister to the list which I offer context of scripture to.

LMAO! Are you ever barking up the wrong tree! I turn the channel when mormon commercials come on, I won't have that crap in the house, no way, no how!

One can be of One mind with another withought being part of the same personhood.

[DelphiUser]

You don’t understand Mormonism very well do you? Well, that makes one of us. (Grin) We have sevenbak and DelphiUser giving each other high fives

Hey, Seven, *High Five*!

When you say Mormon, you ARE in fact stating where someones posistion probably lies.

So you are now admitting that if an anti says “Mormons believe…” we should be offended? Wow, I am book marking this post NOW. If their posistion deviates too much, you have someone like me, a Mormon who is ostracized.

I thought you had sent in your papers? (old habits die hard) We don’t ostracize you, ti’s worse than that. You may wind up being someone’s “special friend” as they try to fellowship you back into the church (man that has GOT to be annoying CC, I’ve never been there, have you?) Anyway, if I were departing the church, I would rather be ostracized than fellowshipped.

[MHGinTN]

You are not the only one shoveling those passages (from you earlier post to which I may have over reacted) around out of context. HERE'S a post directed at those passages and the way Mormon apologists use them in a cloying effort to sow doubt of Orthodox Christian beliefs.

[greyfoxx39]

Good for you.

[tantiboh]

“The LDS machine tells you what you must teach on any given Sunday no matter what holiday it might be, what country you live in, or what disaster may have befallen your congregation. Any deviation from the “lesson plan” must be corrected as soon a possilbe.”

This is untrue, CC. The bishop of the ward is responsible for curriculum. As a Sunday School teacher, he instructs me to stick with the curriculum. So, I do.

If the bishop feels that something specific should be taught, he sees to it that it happens.

Additionally, We only spoke about Sunday School. The bishop (or the counselor he designates to do so) decides all the topics for Sacrament meeting. Priesthood and Relief Society are given much freer reign to determine their own curriculum, though they are given resources which are generally used uniformly.

What all this is called is “structure” and “consistency.” It is not “control.”

[DelphiUser]

they are raising their children Mormon, have excluded her own family for this Evil Cult, now referring to itself as Christian when they are anything but.

Has she excluded you, or have you excluded you.

We are not a cult (any more than the Catholics are.)

“referring to itself as Christian when they are anything but” This is incorrect, and un-Christlike of you to say for you are not “calling a rock a rock” for clearly The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints thinks it is Christian, so you should leave judgment up to he whom holds the judgment seat for he employs no hireling there.

I am not expecting a “Fair” shake from you because of your daughter. I only hope you can find peace in Jesus Christ.

[DelphiUser]

Now, why in the world would Young arrange for paying for the defense of a man he had already excommunicated???

Because, while he hated the sin, he loved the sinner?

[tantiboh]

“Reading about church leaders and others bearing false witness makes it hard to grant credibility.”

Reading from where? I find that such sources themselves consistently spin, lie, distort, and withhold the truth.

[tantiboh]

“Now, why in the world would Young arrange for paying for the defense of a man he had already excommunicated???”

Um, maybe I’m guessing here, but perhaps it was because he was also the governor of the state and the man had a right to council?

[Netizen]

That is quite possible, plus it seems that there were some watering holes that had bad water.

[DelphiUser]

DU, all I can say to this reply is that you are completely overlooking my point that these parents that are excluded are loving, feeling people, and what should be a joyful occasion for them is instead hearbreaking.

I was indeed writing this from the perspective of the groom as I have not yet been to wedding of one of my children. However, If there is love, you can get past such disappointments and still remain civil, and even friends. Respect must be mutual, or you haven’t let your child grow up.

I won’t even address that bunch of spin in your reply except, oooohh beware the dreaded feminist!

You have it backwards, they have to beware of me. (Resisting telling stories….)

[tantiboh]

It’s what the couple does with the leftover green jello that’s fun...

Oops, did I say that out loud?

[tantiboh]

“IMHO, it’s just part of a sad spectacle right now on FR, where the political debate mainly consists of hit-posts on the other candidates rather than supportive posts of one’s own candidate.”

I agree entirely. I’ve seen Giuliani supporters backing McCain, Hunter supporters bashing Giuliani, Thompson supporters bashing everybody else.

I think it’s mostly harmless at this stage, though; it’s the “storming” phase of group dynamics. If it lasts beyond the first primaries, though, then we’re in real trouble.

[Netizen]

Certain incidents in American history just seem to disappear, perhaps because they don’t fit the “theme” that a historian is trying to illustrate.

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That and obscuring history. Notice what is missing from the final inscription!

Maj. Carleton, in his report to Congress, describes the scene at Mountain Meadows: women’s hair caught in sage bushes, children’s bones found in their mothers’ arms, and wolves picking at the bones. It was, he wrote, “a sight which can never be forgotten.” Carleton buried the remains and piled rocks into a monument topped by a wooden cross on which he inscribed “Vengeance is mine: I will repay, saith the Lord.” Soon after, Brigham Young and his men tore down the monument. Over the next century, it would be rebuilt and destroyed several times, standing in the nearly inaccessible and otherwise unmarked massacre site. As time passed, the descendants of the victims demanded a permanent monument to honor their ancestors, and Brigham Young’s descendants wanted to clear his name. In an attempt to keep both parties happy, the state finally built a permanent monument in 1990, an ambiguous inscription engraved in a granite wall: “In Memoriam: In the valley below, between September 7 and 11, 1857, a company of more than 120 Arkansas emigrants led by Capt. John T. Baker and Capt. Alexander Fancher was attacked while en route to California. This event is known in history as the Mountain Meadows Massacre.”

http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/massacre/meadows.html

[Eva]

Many voters would rather vote for a madrassa trained Muslim, than a Mormon. I saw this coming and I’m not surprised. I actually think that people know more about Islam than they do Latter Day Saints, partly due to the secretive nature of many of the Mormon religious rites.

The real anti-Mormon campaign has been going on for a bit longer than Mit Romney has been running for President, though, and it didn’t originate with fundamentalist Christians, either. It originated on the left and has more to do with demographics than ideology. By marginalizing Mormonism, the left can pretty much maginalize the whole state of Utah.

[tantiboh]

"I turn the channel when mormon commercials come on, I won't have that crap in the house, no way, no how!"

"Family: isn't it about time?"

Yeah, I hate that crap too!