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COURT-ING A DISASTER WITH BASE (Rooty fails abortion test---status in doubt)
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| May 4, 2007
| JOHN PODHORETZ
Posted on 05/04/2007 4:05:09 AM PDT by Liz
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To: wewereright
There is no right to abortion in the constitution - it is likewise not constitutional to ban partial birth abortion at the federal level (IMHO). But last night Rudy said a reasonable jurist (one that he would pick) COULD find a right to abortion in the constitution.
And a week ago, Rudy was praising the court for ruling that a federal ban on Partial Birth Abortion WAS constitutional.
So on the two things you said, Rudy opposes your position.
To: don-o
The good ship Juliannie is taking on water and listing left. Only a matter of time until he sleeps with the fishies.O-o-o-o-o....such a big fishie.
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posted on
05/04/2007 5:52:32 AM PDT
by
Liz
(Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
To: Liz
The candidates always learn that abortion is, and will always be, the issue that separates the men from the boys.
Good little zinger there Liz. Blackbird.
To: Liz
I find it odd that you are criticizing Podhoretz for reporting honestly. Lessee, you would bash him if he continued to SUPPORT Rudy despite a bad performance, but you bash him when he says Rudy performed poorly. The poor guy can't win.
The fact is, Rudy had a pretty good 2-3 months, and now is having a bad month. Stuff happens. I don't think the "good" performance by McClame or Mitt is going to gain them much support, although Rudy's support might fall. All that has happened is that more of the base has gone back into "hope hybernation" waiting for either Fred Thompson or Newt to announce. Then we'll really see where the race stands.
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posted on
05/04/2007 5:57:24 AM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: Liz; Just mythoughts; indylindy
I watched the news reporting of this event. They are still trying to give Rudy a "pass" on his flip-flop abortion positions.
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posted on
05/04/2007 5:59:25 AM PDT
by
TommyDale
("Can debate over four hours with no need to call a doctor!")
To: ken5050
"McCain looked old and tired".
That's because he is.
sw
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posted on
05/04/2007 6:03:12 AM PDT
by
spectre
(Spectre's wife)
To: wewereright
Sorry, but Guiliani believes that Ruth Bader Ginsburg is an example of a “strict constructionist” judge and that abortion and gun control are “strict constructionist” positions.
BTW it IS Constitutional to ban partial-birth abortion or even abortion altogether. Under the 5th Amendment you may not be deprived of life without due process of law. Define the kid as alive (pretty easy for partial birth abortion...) and “presto!” they’re protected under the 5th Amendment.
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posted on
05/04/2007 6:03:25 AM PDT
by
Little Ray
(Rudy Guiliani: if his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
To: Alberta's Child; Liz
I believe Podhoretz won’t be the only celeb conservative moving away from Giuliani when the true Rudy color begins to leech back through.
I believe many will come to realize that although Giuliani was right for NYC and “conservative” by NYC’s standards - he’s just not the right conservative for the rest of the Union. I believe Olsen will be in that group.
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posted on
05/04/2007 6:03:30 AM PDT
by
azhenfud
(The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
To: Liz
So much for Rooty's Big Plan to kick social conservatives off the Repub Party lifeboat; in fact, Rooty is the one who looked seasick, bobbing and weaving on the Reagan Library deck.
He looked seasick on the bridge of the S.S. California, home of RINO Republicans. If he can't be straightforward there, imagine how he'll play in the real South (not those handpicked venues in SC where he's been so far). And Hitlery and Obama and Edwards are increasing their lead over him in NY polling. And even nutcase Bloomberg, his protege, is outpolling him as a mayor and as a potential president in NYC.
Gee, Liz, I'm soooooo surprised that the Rudester didn't win you over. LOL!
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posted on
05/04/2007 6:04:08 AM PDT
by
George W. Bush
(Election Math For Dummies: GOP รท Rudi = Hillary)
To: Liz
Rudy’s performance last night at the debate was one of the worst I’ve ever seen a candidate give. I can’t stand him - but I was SHOCKED at how badly he did. I figured he’d be all slick and have polished, pat answers ready - but he looked like he hadn’t even thought he would be asked about abortion.
And this is supposed to be the ONLY guy that can win?
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posted on
05/04/2007 6:09:24 AM PDT
by
alicewonders
(I like Duncan Hunter for President in 2008!)
To: chickadee
Agreeing to allow Chris Matthews to moderate the debate? Insanity.Perhaps, but it's a fact that any Republican that gets elected is going to have to suffer with the Chrissy's of the world for his entire term of office. It's instructive to see how the various candidates deal with it. Bush has pretty much consistently rolled over when the Drive By's attacked him.
I really want someone in office who will stand up to their lies and distortions.
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posted on
05/04/2007 6:15:08 AM PDT
by
Fresh Wind
(Vaclav Klaus: "A whip of political correctness strangles their voice")
To: Liz
The USS Rooty is taking water and sinking fast.
(Rooty) "What The heck is going on????
(Captain) "You ran head on into the abortion issue "
(Rooty) ('dam those conservatives!!')
Man the lifeboats Rudybots!
Women, children, gays and cross-dressers first.
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posted on
05/04/2007 6:18:39 AM PDT
by
Condor51
(Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
To: azhenfud; Alberta's Child
..... Podhoretz wont be the only celeb moving away from Giuliani when the true Rudy color begins to leech back through....... NRO's Byron York Posted:.......the debate candidate who helped himself the most was former Gov. Huckabee........he gave a simple and straightforward account of some of GWB's mistakes in Iraq......Clearly there was a real error in judgment, and that primarily had to do with listening to a lot of folks who were civilians in suits and silk ties and not listening enough to the generals with mud and blood on their boots and medals on their chest..........."
REST HERE http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1828233/posts?page=6
Go ask Podheretz---he knows who those "civilians in suits and silk ties" are---Poddie lunches with them often.
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posted on
05/04/2007 6:21:40 AM PDT
by
Liz
(Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
To: karnage
Romney's biggest weakness is that he's a former Massachusetts governor. I have serious doubts about anyone who was appealing enough to the voters of that radical left-wing state to win an election there.
Having said that, I wouldn't go out on a limb now and say I'd never vote for him. But he really isn't my top candidate for 2008.
To: monkapotamus
;-)
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posted on
05/04/2007 6:23:39 AM PDT
by
Condor51
(Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
To: TommyDale; indylindy
Whenever abortion came up, Rooty looked like he would rather be eating a burrito.
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posted on
05/04/2007 6:24:10 AM PDT
by
Liz
(Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
To: alicewonders
Rudys performance last night at the debate was one of the worst Ive ever seen a candidate give......this is supposed to be the ONLY guy that can win?............. As of last night..........no.
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posted on
05/04/2007 6:26:01 AM PDT
by
Liz
(Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
To: wewereright
Ill be honest - I like Mr. G. because underneath it all hes mean. The other candiates either cant win or are crazy or are not tough enough to take on the democrats. Thats the problem with our current president. Hes too nice. I hate to break this to you, but Mr. Giuliani isn't likely to "take on the Democrats" at all. He agrees with them on about 75%-80% of the issues, and if he were sitting in the White House right now he'd likely be demonstrating his "toughness" (a laughable description if I ever heard one) by taking on Republicans.
To: CharlesWayneCT; Liz
**** I wish we hadnt banned so many Rudy people, it would have been fun to watch them try to explain this. They would have needed all new quotes from Simon and Olson. :-) **** They're all probably having a 'group hug' over at you know where.
(ps: IMO, good riddance.)
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posted on
05/04/2007 6:30:10 AM PDT
by
Condor51
(Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
To: Liz; indylindy
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posted on
05/04/2007 6:30:38 AM PDT
by
TommyDale
("Can debate over four hours with no need to call a doctor!")
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