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Drudge GOP Debate Poll -- 50,000 votes; Clear Winners are Romney, Giuliani, and RON PAUL
Drudge Report ^ | May 4, 2007 | Orthodox Presbyterian

Posted on 05/03/2007 10:23:46 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian

DRUDGE REPORT
The Reagan Derby

Well, with 47,617 individual Votes recorded as of 12:55AM EST on 5/4/07, The Drudge Report has provided perhaps the most sweeping and comprehensive initial survey of viewer reaction to the first GOP Primary Debate at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library.

The Results thus far:

With an optimistic, confident demeaner and a polished presentation, Mitt Romney decidedly overshadowed the erstwhile Front-Runner, Rudy Giuliani. Rudy's primary strength thus far has been his vast name recognition and the sheer momentum of his supposed "inevitability" -- and yet, in terms of viewer reaction, for him to be trailing (by double digits) a former Governor not widely known outside of Massachusetts until this election season demonstrates clear vulnerability on Giuliani's part.

However, the greatest source of comfort to Constitutionalist Conservatives has to be the tremendous upswell of support being registered by the former Leader of Ronald Reagan's Electoral Delegation from Texas, United States Congressman Ron Paul -- and that DESPITE receiving comparatively little "face time" from the debate organizers. With viewer reaction to the first GOP Primary Debate already placing Congressman Ron Paul solidly in third place, nine points ahead of his nearest rival and within five points of Giuliani himself, a tremendous opportunity exists for Ron Paul to establish widespread national Name Recognition and garner increasing support for his broadly-appreciated message of Individual Liberty and strictly-limited Government Power.

With the second GOP Primary Debate rapidly approaching, Conservatives can take heart in knowing that the Message of Reagan Republicanism still resonates when presented confidently and forthrightly --and that there's at least one GOP Candidate on the stage who has stood solidly for Reagan Republicanism for thirty years: RON PAUL.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: debate; duncanhunter; elections; giuliani; liberal; libertariansaredems; paul; presidentialdebate; rino; romney; ronpaul
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; Allegra
Spending American Blood and Treasure to prop up an Islamic Theocracy in Iraq which legally defines Christianity as a Second-Class Religion and which includes a convicted US Embassy Bomber in their Ruling Coalition -- IS "surrendering to the terrorists".

According to the 2002 State of the Union Address, the United States MUST NOT give Military and Financial Support to any Nation which Knowingly and Willfully HARBORS TERRORISTS.

Well, the "democratically elected" Islamic Thug-ocracy of Iraq is guilty of EXACTLY that -- they have knowingly and willfully harbored self-confessed, and even convicted, Anti-American Terrorists (including a convicted US Embassy Bomber!) in their RULING COALITION!

According to the Principles laid down in the 2002 State of the Union Address, therefore, we must not provide any more Military and Financial support whatsoever to the Terrorist Islamic Regime of Iraq.

Ergo, Ron Paul is Right.

Allegra is way off base accusing you of having a desire to "surrender to the terrorists." Your post there and others have demonstrated a desire to stop US support of terrorists.

301 posted on 05/04/2007 8:15:14 PM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: j24601; cva66snipe
I have to say, as a first-time poster here the one thing that got me to finally sign up and join the discussion was watching Ron Paul.

Welcome to FreeRepublic.

302 posted on 05/04/2007 8:20:42 PM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: The_Eaglet

Looks like Ron’s name is catching on :>} The GOP usually fairs well when it runs on a conservative platform. If the GOP wishes to keep the Oval Office Ron Paul would be the best conservative for the job. A Ron Paul campaign may well help usher in some needed strong conservative leadership in both houses as well.


303 posted on 05/04/2007 9:05:07 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Kool Aid! The popular American favorite drink now Made In Mexico. Pro-Open Borders? Drink Up!)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp
off a bunch of people by saying that.

Who, the liberals?

304 posted on 05/05/2007 1:36:44 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: cva66snipe; The_Eaglet; OrthodoxPresbyterian
Looks like Ron’s name is catching on

Ya think?

Mitt Romney
36.7%

Ron Paul
23.3%

Duncan Hunter
18.8%

Rudy Giuliani
8.1%

Among non-members, it was Paul 33%, Romney 30%. Well, Friends Of Ron are a busy bunch on the Internet. Heh-heh. I guess we won't take our poll too seriously since we FReepers know that online polls can be "FReeped".

On the member poll, it was Romney 45%, Hunter 24%, Paul 12%.

That's still quite good, considering how early it is in the pre-primary season.
305 posted on 05/05/2007 7:46:35 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Election Math For Dummies: GOP ÷ Rudi = Hillary)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Romney is the most impressive of all the candidates, and the most electable. He is smart, articulate, conservative, photogenic on TV, and he has executive experience as Governor.


306 posted on 05/05/2007 7:49:41 AM PDT by pleikumud
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
On the basis of those Facts alone: Abortion, Illegal Immigration, and Gun Control are all FAR more important issues than "Terrorism". And Ron Paul is Number #1 with a Bullet on all of those key Conservative issues.

As the founder father Benjamin Rush (present at ALL the important signing of our young America) said... ""I am neither (rep or dem)... I'm a Christocrat" -- Benjamin Rush

Ron Paul's record on supporting Israel is sickening... one has only to google a few articles on Ron Paul to see exactly who is supporting RP (and it runs a gambit close to as anti-semitic as it gets).

I as a fellow Christian can not support this man in any manner on that ground alone, not to mention his total lack of backbone on fighting terrorist. Saying otherwise is to this statement he himself said in the debate...

Ron Paul -- "My major political decision, which was a constitutional decision, was to urge for five years that this country not go to war in Iraq."

"I rise in opposition to this resolution, which I sincerely believe will do more harm than good... It is very clear, reading this resolution objectively, that all the terrorists are on one side and all the victims and the innocents are on the other side. I find this unfair, particularly considering the significantly higher number of civilian casualties among Lebanese civilians. I would rather advocate neutrality rather than picking sides, which is what this resolution does." ...Ron Paul on a pro-Israel legislation

Paul once suggested in a political newsletter that the Israeli government was one of the most "evil lobbying groups in Washington" (Houston Chronicle, 2/23/97).

As my tagline suggests... I will not support Ron Paul... and any true conservative that understands that this nation was founded with Christian leanings that understand that a nation that turns it back on Israel has turned it's back on God.

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution is designed only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other." ~~ President John Adams

When there is a lack of honor in government, the morals of the whole people are poisoned. There is no such thing as a no-man's land between honesty and dishonesty. Our strength lies in spiritual concepts. It lies in public sensitiveness to evil. Our greatest danger is not from invasion by foreign armies. Our dangers are that we may commit suicide from within by complaisance with evil, or by public tolerance of scandalous behavior. -- President Herbert Hoover

Ron Paul has lost the ability to call evil evil... the anti-Israel pro-Islam stance will never warrent my vote (even if cleverly falsely masked under constitution rhetoric that this nation hid from evil). Nothing could be futher from the truth.

307 posted on 05/05/2007 8:36:54 AM PDT by LowOiL (Paul wrote, "Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil" (Rom. 12:9))
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
That if we Nominate Ron Paul, the Republican Nominee will enjoy significant cross-over support from Democrats -- the way Reagan did in 1980 and 1984?

He will get crossver support from other parties, too. In fact, he's getting it from a Constitution Party member at this very moment.

308 posted on 05/05/2007 11:39:02 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: George W. Bush; OrthodoxPresbyterian
It is the neo-con nation-building in Iraq that has isolated us. It is killing our young soldiers for an Islamic state headed by former terrorists.

I prefer the term "pseudo-con" as the global policing at the expense of present and future taxpayes is not conservative.

309 posted on 05/05/2007 12:21:47 PM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: LowOiL

Does this mean we can’t put you on the Ron Paul Pinglist?


310 posted on 05/05/2007 12:57:18 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Election Math For Dummies: GOP ÷ Rudi = Hillary)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Yep, Drudge does have a lot of Democrats that will say anything to make sure the wrong Republican will get in.....


311 posted on 05/05/2007 12:59:29 PM PDT by Craigswatch (The truth hurts, but you need to know it.)
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To: The_Eaglet
RP is the ultimate cross-over candidate.

He gets support and money from Republicans, Libertarians, Constitution Party members, Democrats, probably even some Greens. He's had this kind of support for years and it comes in from across the country.

It's kind of unique. I think he made a lot of friends during that run in '88. He also did well on things like National ID where a lot of people found out their own congresscritter wouldn't help them. But Ron Paul did.
312 posted on 05/05/2007 1:02:32 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Election Math For Dummies: GOP ÷ Rudi = Hillary)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

“RON PAUL is the ONLY socially-conservative Candidate defending the independence of the Christian Church against Federal “Faith-Based Socialism”. “

Romney gave a great answer to Chrissie’s lame question about ‘what would you say to Catholic bishops’.

Several candidates have a good grasp on the proper way to view religious liberty and the separation of church and state (ie Govt, keep your paws off the church and let them be).

Also, Romney supports the Federal Marriage Amendment.

“RON PAUL is the ONLY 100% Anti-Terrorist candidate.”

Ron Paul supports letting Al Qaeda in Iraq defeat the US. Ron Paul joined the defeatist Democrats in concocting the worst foriegn policy vote in the Congress since the days when the Democrats in Congress engineered defeat in Vietnam.


313 posted on 05/05/2007 1:16:25 PM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: jess35

“Yeah, Ron really cracked me up when he held up Eisenhower as an example of a non-interventionist President. I guess he needs to hit the history books and study up on the 1953 Iranian coup.”

Or Guatamala 1954, or *LEBANON* 1958. We also leaned on the Brits to end the Suez crisis, etc.


314 posted on 05/05/2007 1:22:42 PM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: WOSG
Romney gave a great answer to Chrissie’s lame question about ‘what would you say to Catholic bishops’.

It was pretty good. I thought during the rerun it was better than Huckabee's line about the Ahnold Amendment.

Mitt kinda 'gotcha'ed' Chrissy on that one. I think Chrissy knew it too.
315 posted on 05/05/2007 1:25:24 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Election Math For Dummies: GOP ÷ Rudi = Hillary)
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To: WOSG
Ron Paul supports letting Al Qaeda in Iraq defeat the US. Ron Paul joined the defeatist Democrats in concocting the worst foriegn policy vote in the Congress since the days when the Democrats in Congress engineered defeat in Vietnam.

And the constitutionalist Ron Paul voted for legislation that is clearly unconstitutional. Congress has no power to execute war and it sure the hell doesn't have any constitutional power to tell commanders in the field that they have to check with Congress 15 days in advance before troop movements. Paul is very, very good on some things and horrid on others with the WOIslamofascism being one of his most horrid positions.

316 posted on 05/05/2007 1:29:22 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

“What makes you think that our engagement in Iraq does not provide a “huge recruiting tool for the jihadists” NOW?”

This kind of lame, shallow, moonbatism on FR makes me quite annoyed. How can we take Ron Paul seriously when OP so badly misrepresents what is going on in Iraq? So we get in Ron Paul a fiscal conservative who happens to have the same position on Iraq as Ron Dellums, Howard Dean, and Al jazeera??!?!? Phooey!

today, sheiks are joining us to fight AQ in Anbar:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0503/p01s04-wome.html?page=4

Iraq has become a recruiting tool for *US* to find muslims willing to fight A.Q. because AQ has killed more Iraqis than anyone else in the last 3 years.

And OP should know that Muslim extremists have attacked Christians for centuries:
http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2007/05/call-to-prayer-for-church-in-smyrna.html

Bin laden and AQ have recruited terrorists since the 1980s. It mind-blowing cluelessnees to assert that our liberation of Iraq created terrorism when it has been around for years prior.


317 posted on 05/05/2007 1:30:19 PM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: WOSG
the 1953 Iranian coup.” Or Guatamala 1954, or *LEBANON* 1958.

Those are non-events in American history. Like the American incursions in Canada. Or our casualties in the Soviet Union following WW I. They are recorded but they don't exist.

Still, those were not invasions with hundreds of thousands of troops and years of occupation and pacification. I think that is RP's intent. Great powers always do those smaller events. It's part of being a Great Power. RP pointed toward this with his remarks about the costs of such foreign policy and how fundamental changes would be required in the kind of American foreign policy pursued since WW I.
318 posted on 05/05/2007 1:32:38 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Election Math For Dummies: GOP ÷ Rudi = Hillary)
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To: jmc813

“For what it’s worth, on Intrade, an online futures market where real money is on the line, Paul was the only candidate other than Romney to have his stock go up. He definitely impressed some people.”

Romney rose by over 2% to %17% or so, right?
Paul is still under 2% *total*.


319 posted on 05/05/2007 1:35:09 PM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

“Now the most vocal people are often a bunch of bitter, hateful, prune faced blue haired geezers engaged in a scorched earth screamfest.”

You talking about the people who go out of their way to criticize other people in the party/movement, denigrate erstwhile allies, and dreamers who want 100% of what they want or refuse to compromise?

Oh the irony.

“I long for a leader who is not concerned with burying the left and rubbing their faces in it, but simply with going around, over, or through them to achieve the goal, all the while keeping cheerful about it.”

Go ahead, then, support Romney. it won’t kill you.


320 posted on 05/05/2007 1:42:33 PM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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