[Reagan Man]

Legislation of the type contained in House bill HR4437, an enforcement first policy on immigration reform, that includes a strict border security, tough employer sanctions and a halt to welfare for most illegals, IS NOT liberal social engineering.

If you break any existing or future immigration laws of America you should face prosecution. Illegal aliens who break US immigration laws are engaging in and promoting anarchy and chaos. They should be punished. The US is a nation of laws.

Btw, zing me, ping me. Thanks

[EdArt]

The social welfare programs are a major incentive for Hispanics. Stop that and you reduce the reasons for staying. Although there are thousands of Asians and others who have over stayed their visas that do not use the welfare system. They work for cash at low rates.

I live in Los Angeles. One block away from where I live was the final staging area for the big illegal rally(300,000 people) demanding their rights. Unless you could have seen this in person you have no idea how this was about political power.

When a government creates harsh laws that are not commensurate to the crimes it breeds contempt. That is why a just law builds support. Some of the ideas I have seen presented here are beyond the pale.