Man Dies of Thirst During Survival Test

AP ^ | 5-2-2007 | ED WHITE

[cripplecreek]

They wanted him to dig deep, push himself beyond his known limits, and make it to the cave on his own.

They call them limits for a reason.

[South40]

and hallucinating so badly he mistook a tree for a person.

It's not the first time that has happened.

[SmithL]

The guides did not want him to fail the $3,175 course.

I would consider not surviving a survival course to be an indication of failure.

[Types_with_Fist]

LOL!

[Perdogg]

I am not sure which is worse. A promising young pitcher who drives drunk and dies, or this. My prayers for both their families.

[Cecily]

If you are learning survival tips in a $3,000+ course, shouldn’t one of the tips be not to travel during the heat of the day when you are low on water and risk severe dehydration? If I were trying to survive such conditions, I would travel in the early morning or after the heat of the sun started to dissipate.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Ya can’t continue crawling if you’re unconscious.

Now, if you’re conscious, aware, and need to “rest” before continuing to struggle - go on - the guide SHOULD
“let” you struggle.

But to deny water to a man unconscious to “teach him a lesson” is murder - regardless of how far he is from the water.

[Orange1998]

“He asked me to go get the water for him. I said I was not going to leave him. …

At this point it was criminal act.

[needlenose_neely]

In a Feb. 27 letter to the Forest Service, Bernstein said Buschow may not have trained properly, pointing to comments he made to another camper about drinking a gallon of water a day and eating cheesesteaks to bulk up before the expedition.

No kidding. Didn't someone tell him that if there is plantlife, like the tree he mistook for a person, that he could get water out of the plants? Desert plants are full of water.

[SpaceBar]

It is the responsibility of the company guides to monitor and intervene when the life of a client is threatened. This story says wrongful death lawsuit at the very least all over it.

[Mark was here]

I wonder if he was cremated.

[Doomonyou]

“One thing that BOSS offers you is an opportunity to push yourself physically into the red zone. … He was 200 feet from the water. Is that the point where you give it to him? Or 500 feet?”

Maybe when he's delusional? Can't walk? See's Algore? His mouth get's swollen?

Oops.

[needlenose_neely]

If you are learning survival tips in a $3,000+ course, shouldn’t one of the tips be not to travel during the heat of the day when you are low on water and risk severe dehydration? If I were trying to survive such conditions, I would travel in the early morning or after the heat of the sun started to dissipate.

How about one of the tips being, to fill your canteen when they were at a small creek the day before.

Oh, but he was told not to. DUMB, DUMB, DUMB!

[John W]

This O’Neal-“He asked me to go get the water for him. I said I was not going to leave him. … Shortly thereafter I had a bad feeling and turned to Dave and found no sign of breathing.”-

is an imbecile.

[Orange1998]

Did they find Cardinal drinking??

[needlenose_neely]

It is the responsibility of the company guides to monitor and intervene when the life of a client is threatened. This story says wrongful death lawsuit at the very least all over it.

Maybe John Edwards will take the case. He needs the cash since they built their last 12,000 square foot house and cannot sell their Georgetown home for less than $2.3 Mil

[needlenose_neely]

Did they find Cardinal drinking??

Cardinal Egan?

[PeteB570]

You are most correct.

Water conservation is the key. Travel in the cooler parts of the day and keep your cloths on and your head covered. That keeps the sweat in the cloths and evaporating slower. You will feel hotter but slow the sweating process.

I always hated desert survival exercises but am (was)quite good at it.

[tubebender]

Things are starting to fall into place about people and Utah...