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Adapt, Move Or Die: Prehistoric Climate Change
NPR ^ | 5-1-2007 | Joe Palca

Posted on 05/01/2007 3:52:48 PM PDT by blam

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“We're entering a new phase, and it certainly seems to me that this is now not a natural cycle, but something that is being produced by the action of one species — us.” Chris Stringer, Paleontologist, Natural History Museum

Guaranteed to get your name into print.

1 posted on 05/01/2007 3:52:56 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 05/01/2007 3:53:26 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Another scientist speaking as an expert, leaping to radical conclusions about a field he is not trained in.


3 posted on 05/01/2007 3:59:49 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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Looks like the guy is covering his butt. He talks about Britain going through many changes in climate and then makes sure to point out he isn’t a Global Warming Denier. lol


4 posted on 05/01/2007 4:06:05 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Brave men are not afraid to stand alone with the truth.)
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"We then did a rescue dig," says geologist Anthony Stuart...

...but alas, they were too late, and by the time they had finally finished digging, the elephant was still dead*.

*As was Anna Nicole Smith

:P

5 posted on 05/01/2007 4:18:30 PM PDT by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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Scientist or no scientist........everyone should look at the facts. I’m not an Al Gore catastrophist....but if you want to read some real interesting research....do a google search on “NASA” & “earth shift” If you further read about the accelerated rate of movement of the earth’s magnetic North pole, the increase in the strength and frequency of the sun’s CME’s during this 11 year polarity reversal vs. previous polarity reversals, the decrease in the strength of the earth’s magnetic field.....and then take a look at the facts which Mr. Gore is mis-interpreting to cry “The sky is falling.” And one might think that just maybe Emanual Velikovsky was correct when he wrote “Ages in Chaos.”


6 posted on 05/01/2007 4:37:58 PM PDT by tired&retired
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Mastodons? Mammoths?


7 posted on 05/01/2007 4:57:23 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: verum ago

Excellent!


8 posted on 05/01/2007 5:02:56 PM PDT by Postman
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“We're entering a new phase, and it certainly seems to me that this is now not a natural cycle, but something that is being produced by the action of one species — us.” Chris Stringer, Paleontologist, Natural History Museum

If these words were uttered by an engineer, who must be licensed to protect public safety, his license would be revoked for incompetence.

No supporting science, no explanation, no testing of hypotheses, no confirmation of pragmatic testing --- nothing other than feelings.

9 posted on 05/01/2007 5:24:00 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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The pole shift is inevitable and can not be stopped. Plus it is a purely natural cycle. But the GW alarmists don’t want to hear that: they just want to blame people, reduce us to savages and kill off the population. It will be an interesting few decades, centuries(?) as the poles shift and out navigation, electronics etc have to adjust to the change. But we can do it.


10 posted on 05/01/2007 6:44:12 PM PDT by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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Thanks Blam. There's only room for one at the top in the UK, and Stringer is the one in his field. But you know how I look down my nose at Replacement advocates. :')

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11 posted on 05/01/2007 9:51:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, April 28, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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You may enjoy this:

Velikovky’s Ghost Returns

http://www.thunderbolts.info/velikovsky-ghost.htm


12 posted on 05/01/2007 10:10:38 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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Wait for the punchline!

http://www.museums.norfolk.gov.uk/default.asp?Document=400.500.050x4

West Runton Elephant
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Frequently Asked Questions:

How do we know it was a “he”?
Because of the size and shape of the hip bones. Female elephants have a different shaped pelvis for giving birth to young elephants.

How tall was he?
About four metres high at the shoulder, much taller than modern elephants.

How much did he weigh?
About ten tons, twice the weight of a male African elephant.

How old are the fossils?
About 600,000 – 700,000 years old.

How old was the elephant when he died?
We know from the wear on his teeth that he was “in his prime” – in his forties, and would normally have lived to his sixties.

Was it a mammoth or an elephant?
Technically he is a very early mammoth, which is a type of elephant. It was the descendants of this species that became what we call the “woolly mammoths” that lived in the colder conditions of the ice ages and were a lot smaller.

How did the West Runton Elephant get to England, did he have to
swim? No, Britain was not an island at that time. What is now the North Sea was a valley full of plants and animals.

What animals hunted the elephant?
None, they are far too big to be hunted - except by humans.

What other animals were around at the time?
Spotted hyaenas, giant beaver, extinct big cats, extinct species of rhino, extinct giant deer and other deer.

Why don’t we have elephants in England now?
Because of a combination of factors: Successive ice ages stressed our native animals to such an extent that many became extinct naturally, but hunting by early humans may also account for their demise. After the last ice age sea levels rose, creating the North Sea which then prevented land animals from re-colonising Britain.

What did he eat?
Grass, herbaceous shrubs and other vegetation in an open forest and grassland environment.

Back then was it colder or warmer than today?
We know from the small mammals and the pollen from the plants that at the time the West Runton Elephant lived the climate was exactly the same as today. Although the list of animals living with the elephant sounds exotic, this is because we have lost these species due to hunting and the effects of the relatively recent ice ages, not because the climate was any different back then.


13 posted on 05/02/2007 12:18:56 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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people had those three choices: adapt, move or die
14 posted on 05/02/2007 12:30:08 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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people had those three choices: adapt, move or die

Still the same three choices, and if we don't throw away the opportunity in favor of going back to mud huts and animal skins, we might even get a toehold on other planets as well.

(I should have hit the preview..)

15 posted on 05/02/2007 12:33:02 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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"Now we're getting something that's not part of the cycle of natural change," Stringer says. "So we're entering a new phase, and it certainly seems to me that this is now not a natural cycle, but something that is being produced by the action of one species — us."

How does Mr. Stringer know for certain that what we are in is NOT part of a cycle of natural change?

16 posted on 05/02/2007 12:45:33 AM PDT by SuziQ
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“How does Mr. Stringer know for certain that what we are in is NOT part of a cycle of natural change?”

Because his Thought Boss told him so.


17 posted on 05/02/2007 12:56:38 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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Maybe humans have reached a point where we'll be able to adapt to whatever climate changes lie ahead… maybe.

Maybe humans have reached a point where we've already adapted to many climate change cycles... maybe.

18 posted on 05/02/2007 1:50:51 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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Humans are only part of the natural environment when it suits the researcher (the “Noble Savage” crapola). Otherwise they are evil. Well except the ivory tower humans—they are good.


19 posted on 05/02/2007 5:51:37 AM PDT by Betis70 (GO SHARKS)
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the climate was exactly the same as today
LOL!
20 posted on 05/02/2007 7:26:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, April 28, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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