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GONZALES WANTS ARBITRARY POWER TO BLOCK GUN PURCHASES; SAF SAYS HE SHOULD RESIGN
Second Amendment Foundation (email alert) ^ | 5/1/07 | Alan Gottlieb

Posted on 05/01/2007 12:47:00 PM PDT by Carry_Okie

BELLEVUE, WA – Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’ troubling support of legislation that would allow him and future attorneys general the arbitrary power to block firearms purchases without due process is cause for him to step down as the nation’s highest ranking law enforcement officer, the Second Amendment Foundation said today.

The bill, S. 1237, was introduced last week at the Justice Department’s request by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), one of the most extreme anti-gunners in Congress. Called the “Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2007,” this legislation would give the Attorney General discretionary authority to deny the purchase of a firearm or the issuance of a firearm license or permit because of some vague suspicion that an American citizen may be up to no good.

“This bill,” said SAF founder Alan Gottlieb, “raises serious concerns about how someone becomes a ‘suspected terrorist.’ Nobody has explained how one gets their name on such a list, and worse, nobody knows how to get one’s name off such a list.

“The process by which someone may appeal the Attorney General’s arbitrary denial seems weak at best,” Gottlieb suggested, “and there is a greater concern. When did we decide as a nation that it is a good idea to give a cabinet member the power to deny someone’s constitutional right simply on suspicion, without a trial or anything approaching due process?

“We’re not surprised that General Gonzales has found an agreeable sponsor in Frank Lautenberg,” Gottlieb observed. “The senator from New Jersey has never seen a restrictive gun control scheme he did not immediately embrace, and S. 1237 is loaded with red flags. It would allow an appointed bureaucrat the authority to suspend or cancel someone’s Second Amendment right without even being charged with a crime.

“Attorney General Gonzales has no business asking for that kind of power over any tenet in the Bill of Rights,” Gottlieb said. “He took an oath to uphold the Constitution, not trample it. Perhaps it is time for him to go.”


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: albertogonzales; banglist; bootlick; cwii; doj; gonzales; gungrabber; lautenberg; libertysecurity; patriotact; phaedra; rkba; s1237; saf; secondamendment; wot
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To: Southack
...and if Democrats want to be portrayed as gun-banners in the 2008 elections, then so be it.

I read that someone here has an inside scoop, it's a done deal.

Meaning Bush will sign it.

Meaning it's not just the Democrats who will want to appear as gun banners.

It looks like -- if this goes through -- the sellout is complete.

281 posted on 05/02/2007 4:35:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz (JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
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To: Lazamataz

It’s not your father’s Republican party anymore, kid.


282 posted on 05/02/2007 4:52:39 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: Carry_Okie
WE MAY HAVE BEEN HAD!

MY SEARCH FOR S1237 CAME UP WITH THIS:

"S.1237 Title: A bill to expedite the transition to digital television while helping consumers to continue to use their analog televisions. "

Can anyone confirm the source of this article, the web link for SAF has no home page?

283 posted on 05/02/2007 4:53:33 AM PDT by AmericanDave (Over it's not, till over it IS, Jedi....... Yoda Berra)
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To: Doug Fiedor

Hell, just send him to canada; he’d fit right in. The RCMP Firearms Officers can enter your home without a warrant and search your home for any firearms violations or unsafe storage and they can seize your guns and ammo for any reason any time they want to. Any time, and without a warrant. And, guess what! You will never get your guns back, and your firearms acquisition and carry permits are taken from you on the spot and never returned. All on the whim of some french RCMP officer. And this is all legal and spelled out in the criminal code. So let’s fight back with all we have to prevent this happening here. This is not some little unimportant chickensheis stuff here. This is the real battle. Freedom of speech pales by comparison.


284 posted on 05/02/2007 5:08:26 AM PDT by twonie (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT '08. THERE - A COMMITMENT OUT LOUD.)
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To: DTogo

For God’s sake, don’t address them in their own language - it only serves to encourage them.


285 posted on 05/02/2007 5:20:29 AM PDT by twonie (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT '08. THERE - A COMMITMENT OUT LOUD.)
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To: Carry_Okie
In the existence of multiple independent sources.

All that I can read is the opinion of one individual; Alan Gottlieb. Perhaps I missed the second page of his email which sources the AG, or anyone beside the author?

286 posted on 05/02/2007 5:29:01 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: samadams2000
I'll say it. He's ruining our country, through action and inaction.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

287 posted on 05/02/2007 5:33:11 AM PDT by wku man (Claire Wolfe, is it time yet?)
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To: paulcissa

Man oh man.......the Bush administration is looking more and more like a dictatorship!


288 posted on 05/02/2007 5:57:30 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Carry_Okie
I guess this Affirmative Action hire can’t read the constitution, but was hired anyway.
289 posted on 05/02/2007 6:00:08 AM PDT by jackieaxe (This one hour pre-flight security screening is brought to you by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia)
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To: Always Right

Dear God, Please don't let the help the BUSH BOTS see the light!!

290 posted on 05/02/2007 6:08:06 AM PDT by Verax
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To: Carry_Okie

Glad Pres. Bush went to bat for him./sarcasm

Looks like the ground work for the confiscation of all fire arms has been laid.


291 posted on 05/02/2007 6:16:32 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: spikeytx86
I have friends there also, and to be honest after talking with them last summer my support for this game has waned.

The ROE are such that there are “safe zones” of operation set up by the Iraqi government. We are not allowed to follow the enemy into his home. We are fighting this like Nam, and if that doesn’t change will loose like Nam.

292 posted on 05/02/2007 6:31:00 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Carry_Okie
I want this incompetent stooge hosed for good.

Bush or Gonzales?
293 posted on 05/02/2007 6:33:07 AM PDT by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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To: Lazamataz

Bush has never been very strong on gun rights.


294 posted on 05/02/2007 6:33:23 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Centurion2000
"Called the “Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2007,” this legislation would give the Attorney General discretionary authority to deny the purchase of a firearm or the issuance of a firearm license or permit because of some vague suspicion that an American citizen may be up to no good."

Are they insane???



Yes.
295 posted on 05/02/2007 6:36:16 AM PDT by khnyny
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To: AmericanDave
S. 1237: A bill to increase public safety by permitting the Attorney General to deny the...

The Library of Congress (Thomas) S.1237

Second Amendment Foundation - see News and Releases

296 posted on 05/02/2007 6:43:10 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF *GOA*SAS)
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To: Cobra64
LOL! I didn't see an entry for that load on the ballistics charts. Got any info?! ;o)
297 posted on 05/02/2007 6:59:17 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF *GOA*SAS)
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To: AmericanDave
WE MAY HAVE BEEN HAD!

SAF is a reliable source. What was the year of the S1237 you saw?

298 posted on 05/02/2007 7:08:00 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Amerigomag
Perhaps I missed the second page of his email which sources the AG, or anyone beside the author?

See Post 296.

299 posted on 05/02/2007 7:10:01 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: GladesGuru

IIRC, it was the Ashcroft DOJ in August 2004 which issued that particular opinion, or at least did most of the work on it.


300 posted on 05/02/2007 7:10:31 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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