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GONZALES WANTS ARBITRARY POWER TO BLOCK GUN PURCHASES; SAF SAYS HE SHOULD RESIGN
Second Amendment Foundation (email alert) ^ | 5/1/07 | Alan Gottlieb

Posted on 05/01/2007 12:47:00 PM PDT by Carry_Okie

BELLEVUE, WA – Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’ troubling support of legislation that would allow him and future attorneys general the arbitrary power to block firearms purchases without due process is cause for him to step down as the nation’s highest ranking law enforcement officer, the Second Amendment Foundation said today.

The bill, S. 1237, was introduced last week at the Justice Department’s request by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), one of the most extreme anti-gunners in Congress. Called the “Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2007,” this legislation would give the Attorney General discretionary authority to deny the purchase of a firearm or the issuance of a firearm license or permit because of some vague suspicion that an American citizen may be up to no good.

“This bill,” said SAF founder Alan Gottlieb, “raises serious concerns about how someone becomes a ‘suspected terrorist.’ Nobody has explained how one gets their name on such a list, and worse, nobody knows how to get one’s name off such a list.

“The process by which someone may appeal the Attorney General’s arbitrary denial seems weak at best,” Gottlieb suggested, “and there is a greater concern. When did we decide as a nation that it is a good idea to give a cabinet member the power to deny someone’s constitutional right simply on suspicion, without a trial or anything approaching due process?

“We’re not surprised that General Gonzales has found an agreeable sponsor in Frank Lautenberg,” Gottlieb observed. “The senator from New Jersey has never seen a restrictive gun control scheme he did not immediately embrace, and S. 1237 is loaded with red flags. It would allow an appointed bureaucrat the authority to suspend or cancel someone’s Second Amendment right without even being charged with a crime.

“Attorney General Gonzales has no business asking for that kind of power over any tenet in the Bill of Rights,” Gottlieb said. “He took an oath to uphold the Constitution, not trample it. Perhaps it is time for him to go.”


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: albertogonzales; banglist; bootlick; cwii; doj; gonzales; gungrabber; lautenberg; libertysecurity; patriotact; phaedra; rkba; s1237; saf; secondamendment; wot
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To: VxH

Yeah : )


261 posted on 05/01/2007 9:06:28 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Rembrandt
Harry “The Hat” Reid is the one who should resign.

Correction: Harry “The Hat” Reid is the one who should also resign.

He’s a thief and a fraud.

On a scale you can't imagine.

262 posted on 05/01/2007 9:09:09 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Dick Bachert

Yup, I watched that. Lots of good quotes. Freud nails it. Gun grabbers are sexually repressed (and probably have dinky weenies).


263 posted on 05/01/2007 9:17:34 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Carry_Okie

I’ve been talking about this for a while, didn’t know it had finally come around. About a year ago, during one of those hearings where Gonzalez was being made a fool about wiretapping or some other thing, a couple of democrats, including I believe Lautenberg, asked him why people on the terror watch list were allowed to by guns.

That’s when I stopped supporting Alberto. Because instead of answering “Because the watch list is just that — a list of people to pay attention to, NOT a list of people that are guilty of anything”, he said “That’s a good idea, I’ll have to look at it.”

And here we are. Denying guns to people who meet a profile. Couple that with anti-gun states looking for reasons to commit their citizens en-masse to deny them guns through the mental health exception, and things are looking dangerous for the 2nd amendment crowd.

It’s not the time to put in a President who doesn’t care about the issue.


264 posted on 05/01/2007 9:30:43 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Bushbacker1

LOL! Close, but that was not targeting named individuals, nor was it at the discretion of the Attorney General.


265 posted on 05/01/2007 10:09:06 PM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

You gotta be ________ me! WTF???


266 posted on 05/01/2007 10:10:13 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne ("Shorn, dumb and bleating is no way to go through life, son." Yeah, close enough.)
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To: Dick Bachert

Like I posted before......Give me 10 grand, and drop me in any major city, and I will buy enough illegal ammunition to wipe out all the folks at Yankee Stadium!


267 posted on 05/01/2007 10:13:47 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Carry_Okie

Bahhh......I’ve been chastised for needing to keep my tinfoil hat handy, BUT this sucks.


268 posted on 05/01/2007 10:14:32 PM PDT by Phil Southern (Dirt is for growin' taters, asphault is for racin')
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To: Carry_Okie

Well there is another thread where folks were angling to give the state the right to determine which words were appropriate to say to your kid and which ones were not..Of course this includes how you speak to your kid angry or what ever.

“This guy yelled at his kid”... “No Second Amendment for
You”

Talk about your Neo Soup Nazi wannabes... lol

Many of these nut jobs are just desperate for control of everything period.. Any wonder why they Hate firearms in the hands of citizens? They hate citizens and prefer subjects.

W


269 posted on 05/01/2007 11:01:38 PM PDT by WLR
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To: WLR
They hate citizens and prefer subjects.

To which they will be subject themselves.

270 posted on 05/01/2007 11:06:15 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Always Right; Carry_Okie
Well if the Bush administration keeps this up, conservatives are going to be asking to impeach Bush.

I am close to that point over the illegals...

271 posted on 05/02/2007 1:57:15 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: twonie
So Gonzalez got a democrat anti-gun maniac to bring in his request to Congress? Useless. Both of them.

He is just trying to pave the way for Julie-Annie...

272 posted on 05/02/2007 2:02:04 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: twonie
So Gonzalez got a democrat anti-gun maniac to bring in his request to Congress? Useless. Both of them.

He is just trying to pave the way for Julie-Annie...


273 posted on 05/02/2007 2:02:20 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Carry_Okie

Adios, Alberto!


274 posted on 05/02/2007 3:58:53 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Vic3O3; cavtrooper21

Heads up ping!

Semper Fi


275 posted on 05/02/2007 4:04:44 AM PDT by dd5339 (A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero's path.)
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To: dd5339

Enemy of the Constitution, Domestic, 1 each.


276 posted on 05/02/2007 4:13:07 AM PDT by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Have they totally lost their effing minds? Are they TRYING to lose conservative support?

Crusader Bumper Sticker

277 posted on 05/02/2007 4:14:52 AM PDT by Mad Dawg ( St. Michael: By the power of God, fight with us!)
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To: Carry_Okie
OUTRAGEOUS...

I've stuck with Bush through thick and thin, if He isn't dumping Gonsales after this, He's little better than Hillary or Gore!

American Dave is ready to IMPEACH.

278 posted on 05/02/2007 4:20:55 AM PDT by AmericanDave (Over it's not, till over it IS, Jedi....... Yoda Berra)
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To: kerryusama04
kerryusama04 wrote: How about an ammendment to the bill to allow the Attorney General to deny freedom of speech rights without due process as well? That was McCain/Feingold.

Good Point............

279 posted on 05/02/2007 4:23:10 AM PDT by AmericanDave (Over it's not, till over it IS, Jedi....... Yoda Berra)
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To: JFC

“Nope, and we bought a Smith and Wesson, We are signing up for a gun course this week.”

It’s good to see gun ownership AND responsablity. Welcome to the ranks of FULL citizenship.

Firearm safety rules (taught universally with some variation):

1.Treat Every gun as if it is loaded.
2.Never point a gun at anything you don’t want to destroy.
3.Never put your finger on the trigger till you are ready to shoot.
4.Always be aware of what is in front of and behind your target.


280 posted on 05/02/2007 4:34:36 AM PDT by AmericanDave (Over it's not, till over it IS, Jedi....... Yoda Berra)
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