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To: Hoplite

French recognition of American independence did not magically make the British hanging of Nathan Hale into a war-crime. The Bosnian Serbs were fighting for the integrity of their homeland—Yugoslavia—just as the ‘secessionists’ from Virginia who formed West Virginia, to oppose secession.
From their point of view, the Bosnian secessionists were traitors. Again, I remind you, the Geneva Conventions do not apply to civil wars.

3016 missing persons, and 350 on voting lists, vs. lots more missing and 9 on voting lists for a different election? (I read the same thing you read and cited in your post to the other thread, the Brunborg et al. report that looked at tht 1997 and 1998 lists, and found only 9 of the missing).

The ‘experts’ employed by the Kangaroo Court for the Former Yugoslavia don’t seem to be able to tell a coherent story. Seeing this is the same ‘august’ body whose case against Milosevic had completely collapsed before his death, I’m suprised you have the timerity to cite them as authoritative.

Equating ‘missing persons’ with murdered (or summarily executed, by your leave) is a neat trick. Missing can be murdered, executed, killed in battle, died of natural causes, fled and living overseas under a new identity, moved to the next village after the war and not speaking up, since your propaganda depends on keeping the number of missing, disingenuously declared murdered, as high as possible.

For precisely that reason, battle casualties are an issue: you want to claim missing = murdered, which is not the case, as even one battle casualty among the missing proves.


43 posted on 05/02/2007 8:23:38 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: The_Reader_David
You really don't know enough to discuss this subject.

Again, I remind you, the Geneva Conventions do not apply.

See if you can follow me here:

The Geneva Convention relative to the treatment of Prisoners of War specifically state that they apply to conflicts "not of an international character".

Article 3

In the case of armed conflict not of an international character occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each party to the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following provisions:

1. Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.

To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:

( a ) Violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture;

( b ) Taking of hostages;

( c ) Outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating and degrading treatment;

( d ) The passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples.

And if that, like what transpires at the ICTY, proves too difficult for you to understand, the following Protocol II makes it even simpler:

Article 1.-Material field of application

1. This Protocol, which develops and supplements Article 3 common to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 without modifying its existing conditions of application, shall apply to all armed conflicts which are not covered by Article 1 of the Protocol Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, and relating to the Protection of Victims of International Armed Conflicts (Protocol I) and which take place in the territory of a High Contracting Party between its armed forces and dissident armed forces or other organized armed groups which, under responsible command, exercise such control over a part of its territory as to enable them to carry out sustained and concerted military operations and to implement this Protocol.

2. This Protocol shall not apply to situations of internal disturbances and tensions, such as riots, isolated and sporadic acts of violence and other acts of a similar nature, as not being armed conflicts.

In short, you're wrong, and appear to be operating under the mistaken impression that simply because you post something, that it somehow is worthy of consideration and immune from the most basic fact-checking.

Disabuse yourself of any such notion immediately.

What transpired in the aftermath of the Serbian take-over of Srebrenica is no longer in doubt for folks with half a brain.

Get yourself half a brain.

44 posted on 05/02/2007 11:20:17 PM PDT by Hoplite
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