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To: cva66snipe
IF the House and Senate were in fact operating within the Constitution then people wouldn't be running around like chickens with their head cut off worrying about Hillary Clinton being POTUS as she would not be a threat the GOP has let her become by the ongoing expansion of Executive Branch Powers

In other words, you are arguing that there would be no reason to be concerned about a second Clinton presidency if she didn't have access to these mythical new powers of the Executive you claim Bush has obtained.

(1) Hillary Clinton would make a horrible president in any context.

(2) The Executive has no more power now than it did prior to the 2000 election.

The fact that you parrot Democrat rhetoric about the powers of the Bush administration and that you apparently have no issue with a Hillary Clinton presidency per se informs me that you are not a serious interlocutor.

If you decide to think beyond Nancy Pelosi's talking points, your posts will become far more interesting than they are now.

74 posted on 05/01/2007 6:16:22 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake; cva66snipe
The fact that you parrot Democrat rhetoric about the powers of the Bush administration and that you apparently have no issue with a Hillary Clinton presidency per se informs me that you are not a serious interlocutor.

That rhetoric is hardly limited to Democrats.

76 posted on 05/01/2007 6:58:07 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: wideawake; The_Eaglet
The Constitution is working just fine, and doesn't really need Ron Paul's assistance.

The fact that you parrot Democrat rhetoric about the powers of the Bush administration and that you apparently have no issue with a Hillary Clinton presidency per se informs me that you are not a serious interlocutor.

Why I'm bothering I don't know because I have much better things to do. The Constitution is clear but we can't let that document get in the way of 'victory'.

But beyond affirming executive supremacy in matters of war, what is George Bush going to do? It is simply untrue that we are making decisive progress in Iraq. The indicators rise and fall from day to day, week to week, month to month. In South Vietnam there was an organized enemy. There is clearly organization in the strikes by the terrorists against our forces and against the civil government in Iraq, but whereas in Vietnam we had Hanoi as the operative headquarters of the enemy, we have no equivalent of that in Iraq, and that is a matter of paralyzing importance. All those bombings, explosions, assassinations: we are driven to believe that they are, so to speak, spontaneous.--William F Buckley

I suppose Mr. Buckley must not be a 'serious interlocutor' either. After all what has he done for the conservative movement compared to the as yet unknown actions of wideawake?

I am reminded for some reason of that scene from Animal House where they tell Bluto the 'war's over' and his response is so 'Republican'. 'Nothing is over until we say it's over'. What do the Deltas do? They go out, create havoc, and yet are still suspended from school. In effect a futile, albeit very funny, episode. In this case however nothing is funny. Troops will continue to die, Iraqis will continue to die, money will continue to be wasted, and yet the situation will, as history as shown us in the Middle East contrary to wideawake's wishful hopings, eventually fail. For multiple reasons outlined by non Republican conservatives much more intelligent than myself.

And yet El Presidente continues to throw my money down the pit.

At least you've moved away from the Ron Paul 'lied' rhetoric. That was just demeaning to watch someone beat themselves into the ground with nonsense...Face it, Paul is the only fiscal conservative running.

90 posted on 05/01/2007 7:40:30 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: wideawake
In other words, you are arguing that there would be no reason to be concerned about a second Clinton presidency if she didn't have access to these mythical new powers of the Executive you claim Bush has obtained.

No now pay attention this time. What I am saying is this. Thanks to the GOP Hillary as POTUS is now a far more serious matter than it was in 2000. The GOP was power drunk and gave their beloved W anything and everything he asked for all in the name of the W.O.T. Of course there was also the cheer-leading voters who thought it was all a good idea because THEIR party was in power the short sighted sheep they are. Hillary would now have The Patriot Act and DHS as well. The GOP has tried to make Bush a king in the same manner the DEMs tried to do with FDR.

114 posted on 05/01/2007 9:58:50 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Kool Aid! The popular American favorite drink now Made In Mexico. Pro-Open Borders? Drink Up!)
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