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To: cva66snipe
Now wanna play some more games? I proved my point.

No, you've proved mine.

You have been implying for posts and posts now that USAG Gonzalez has called for some kind of a unified database containing everyone's ISP records, medical records, phone records, etc. and that this database is to be used for domestic spying.

The examples you cite tell a very different story.

Your first example contains an allegation - not a confirmation - that the NSA began creating a database of call records shortly after 9/11/01.

If this unproven allegation is correct, that places the initiation of this database well before Gonzalez was USAG.

Your second example references a a proposal for a network of healthcare records databases that would not be maintained by the federal government, but which would be maintained by health insurers, and which would be subject to the same doctor-patient confidentiality rules as paper files are.

There is no indication in your referenced article that USAG Gonzalez has requested the creation of this information system, and the system as described does not eleiminate privacy or privilege or put private data in the hands of the Justice Department.

Your third example relates to a proposed expansion of the preexisting FBI DNA database to include DNA samples from arrestees. The article claims this is pursuant to a Bush administration proposal, but does not give any checkable reference to such a proposal.

The timeframe again demonstrates that this is well prior to Gonzalez appointment as USAG.

Your fourth example is the only one that involves USAG Gonzalez and it is not a request for the building of a database or even a request for information. It is a request by the USAG that ISPs maintain their own internal records for a long enough period so that if law enforcement obtains a warrant for ISP records, they will still exist instead of having vanished into the ether.

Your examples show that USAG Gonzalez has never requested or even suggested some kind of unified database administered by the Department of Justice that would have unlimited access to citizens' phone, medical, DNA and ISP records.

You took four very disparate initiatives, the existence of two of which remains an open question, and conflated them into a mythical unified database neither USAG Gonzalez nor anyone else in the administration has ever suggested.

210 posted on 05/02/2007 12:41:54 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Bye bye TROLL.


211 posted on 05/02/2007 12:52:17 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Kool Aid! The popular American favorite drink now Made In Mexico. Pro-Open Borders? Drink Up!)
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