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To: cva66snipe
Want some more?

Unsubstantiated claims of unconstitutional powers? Not really.

How about his Faith Based Programs? Looks harmless doesn’t it? Well it isn’t. Churches today are being censored by the fed usually using the USPS to achieve the purpose by saying what can and can not be placed in church flyer's {bulletins mailed out under NPO status}.

Let's pretend that this claim you've just made is true and verified - which it isn't.

If you want federal grant money, then you have to abide by the terms of the federal grant program.

If you don't like the terms, you don't have to ask for money.

Nothing unconstitutional about that - unless the Executive is somehow constitutionally obligated to give people free money. Which article would that be in?

Now you let the church start taking federal dollars and see how quick for example churches are ordered to hire gay preachers. Congress has no Constitutional authority nor does POTUS to stick it’s nose in church missions. The FED already has about destroyed church ran orphanages and hospitals. I say give them back to the churches to run as they see fit and I bet you Ron Paul agree’s.

Again, churches that decide to feed at the public trough do so voluntarily.

The impositions against hospitals and orphanages do not come from the Executive, of course, but from local jurisdictions.

But feel free to just make anything up.

143 posted on 05/01/2007 1:44:52 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
The impositions against hospitals and orphanages do not come from the Executive, of course, but from local jurisdictions.

Wrong! Any hospital who takes one cent in Medicaid {a State ran but federal funded program} or Medicare is indeed under FED impositions. Even private pay facilities are somewhat. So are orphanages who may happen to have kids under Medicaid due to death of parents. IOW they fall under Sec of Health and Human Services. Wanna play some more?

BTW I do think churches should not except one cent of Federal funding. It's a poor deal with the devil.

144 posted on 05/01/2007 1:57:47 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Kool Aid! The popular American favorite drink now Made In Mexico. Pro-Open Borders? Drink Up!)
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To: wideawake; cva66snipe
Again, churches that decide to feed at the public trough do so voluntarily.

The problem is that they are unconstitutionally given said trough to feed. The so-called "Faith-based initiatives" trough is unconstitutional per Amendments I and X.

151 posted on 05/01/2007 4:57:50 PM PDT by The_Eaglet
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