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Vigilantes impose peace in Rio slums
Associated Press ^ | April 27, 2007 | Peter Muello

Posted on 04/29/2007 11:27:53 AM PDT by Zakeet

RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil - For as long as anyone can remember, the cracked asphalt soccer field in the Roquete Pinto slum was off-limits to children — "reserved" by gangs selling marijuana and cocaine. Then, a few months ago, a mysterious squad of beefy men with submachine guns started patrolling on foot, and the drug dealers disappeared.

A few days ago, while gunbattles were raging in two other Rio de Janeiro neighborhoods and bystanders were shielding their kids from the bullets, the barefoot teens of Roquete Pinto smiled and shouted as they kicked a ball around their freshly liberated field.

Startling transformations like Roquete Pinto's are increasingly visible across Rio, as for-profit "militias" made up of active and former police officers, private security guards, off-duty prison guards and firefighters evict drug gangs from slums where violence used to be out of control.

Although some worry about the implications of vigilante justice, the militias have powerful sympathizers, among them Mayor Cesar Maia, who calls them "self-defense groups" and says that compared with the drug gangs, the vigilantes are the lesser evil.

The surprise is that the gangs aren't fighting to hold their turf. In the few known cases where they did, militia gunfire turned them back.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; brazil; crime; vigilantes
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To: B4Ranch

Is anyone asking why Brazil can’t police its gangland crime wave? I blame the politicians, and I blame the people themselves, and their culture. Of course Los Angeles used to be a nice town, too. I remember when it was. These days, it looks a lot more like Rio, I’d say.


21 posted on 04/29/2007 7:09:03 PM PDT by James W. Fannin
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To: James W. Fannin

What would happen if a squad of beefy men with submachine guns started patrolling our slums and ghettos neighborhoods on foot instead of Taser armed men and women who must be concerned with criminal rights in a patrol car?


22 posted on 04/29/2007 7:23:31 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world." -George Washington-)
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To: B4Ranch

You and I both know the anser to that question. They’d be swept up into our criminal justice system pronto. Oprah and Ellen would croon about the operation, and David Letterman would tee off to a punchline that night. Al/Jesse would belly up to a couple of fundraisers dedicated to the event, and Saturday Night Live would do about 20 skits about it.


23 posted on 04/29/2007 7:32:54 PM PDT by James W. Fannin
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To: B4Ranch
We had a no nonsense Police Chief and his successor who slowed the spread of gang warfare here in Eureka but it is a small city of about 30,000. The vagrants are a different matter as they are on the Fed ESA or something because we are told they are untouchable...
24 posted on 04/29/2007 8:31:28 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: Sherman Logan
The only fully successful vigilante groups were those who implemented a predetermined program and then disbanded.

The advantage of an armed citizenry is that it is capable of assembling itself quickly into a group of whatever size is needed to deal with present circumstances, and then disbanding such group when it is no longer needed. Permanent police forces are at any given time almost always going to be either understaffed or overstaffed (since instantaneous demands on the police will vary far more quickly than staffing levels). I would guess long-term vigilante groups would probably have the same problem; if there isn't anything for them to do, they'll "find" something.

25 posted on 04/29/2007 9:14:39 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: tubebender

untouchable

Isn’t that nice!


26 posted on 04/29/2007 10:07:52 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world." -George Washington-)
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To: supercat

Pretty much what happened throughout American history.

Extended-service vigilantes tended to provoke the formation of counter-vigilante groups, often called “Regulators,” with the conflict between the two groups sometimes escalating to something close to civil war.

Still, it’s difficult to see any other solution where the collapse or absence of government makes conditions intolerable for the average person.


27 posted on 04/30/2007 5:11:05 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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To: JoeFromSidney
"And when the state fails to do its job, as Abraham Lincoln observed, the people have the right to replace it."

Applies to our borders as well, IMO.

Carolyn

28 posted on 04/30/2007 5:17:59 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: B4Ranch

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” (Edmund Burke)


29 posted on 04/30/2007 7:57:06 AM PDT by 300magnum (We know that if evil is not confronted, it gains in strength and audacity, and returns to strike us)
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To: B4Ranch
"ping to neighborhood clean-up"

Seems pretty clear that's what we're coming to...

30 posted on 04/30/2007 10:37:11 AM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Zakeet

Successful self-defense efforts like this are probably one of the big reasons a nation-wide gun-control initiative was voted down in Brazil a couple of years ago.
American anti-gun groups pumped millions into the campaign on behalf of their Brazilian socialist counterparts and were astonished that the common folk of the country didn’t buy it.


31 posted on 05/01/2007 4:33:25 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Rousing the blog-rabble since 9-11-01)
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