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To: volunbeer
Dunno. I’m glad you believe this and I hope you are correct. However, I’m near Atlanta and we have some cops up for murder charges for killing an old black woman. They basically admitted to lying to a judge to get a warrant. They did this in order to meet (idiotic) requirements set their by the superiors. I’d like to know a bit more about those requirements... But do think that cops that would lie to get a warrant would balk at rousting gun-owners?

Also, I recall that, a few years ago, they surveyed, at some level a bunch of Marines about conducting operations in the US to disarm American Citizens.
IIRC, a majority said they would do it.

161 posted on 04/27/2007 11:57:21 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: if his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: Little Ray

I have always doubted the validity of that poll. I was an officer in the Army and my own informal polling on the topic led me to conclude that it would not happen.

Even if they started such a mission I don’t think very many would finish it after the first shoot-out with a regular Joe with a family.

Guns are an emotional issue for many but like most topics in the public debate today they seek more to assign blame rather than deal with the root causes of the problem.

With that said, I have taken plenty of heat on this board for my views which lean more towards more standard firearms instead of the exotic stuff where the risk to the public might outweigh my enjoyment of shooting said weapons.

I think we as firearms owners and the firearms industry as a whole need to try and be smart about what we do and don’t support. The first time someone uses a .50 caliber rifle to destroy an airliner full of people on the ground there will probably be massive public support for no more .50 calibers. That is one example that I can think of where maybe the risks to the public outweigh my individual rights. It’s not what I would do with it that I worry about...


164 posted on 04/27/2007 12:18:27 PM PDT by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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To: Little Ray

Re: the cops in Atlanta....

Sad case and if they lied I don’t feel bad about what happened to them. Narcotics is something I am very familiar with and I have written many warrants myself. I am not a major fan of no knock warrants although I have seen a few instances where it was justified.

Like most things in law enforcement you always hear about the one that screwed up but never think much about the hundreds and thousands of warrants that take place each day without incident.


165 posted on 04/27/2007 12:25:33 PM PDT by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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To: Little Ray
Also, I recall that, a few years ago, they surveyed, at some level a bunch of Marines about conducting operations in the US to disarm American Citizens.

IIRC, a majority said they would do it.

Okay. I'm calling BS on that one. I spent 20 years in the Corps and I can say without a doubt that statement is utter BS!

178 posted on 04/27/2007 7:27:29 PM PDT by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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