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To: atomic conspiracy

The problem is, it wouldn’t be Dan coming to your house.

It would be a dozen cops in ninja suits and body armor with MP5s and licenses to kill.

Now if you get a dozen friends, and used rifles with enough penetration to punch through body armor, you might have a winning arguement, once. But the next time they’d do a Waco on you. Unless your friends got a dozen friends each to join ‘em. Then you’d have an insurrection. And the NG would be your next visitor.

And do you really want to shoot at cops and Guardsmen? This needs to be solved another level.


159 posted on 04/27/2007 11:41:46 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: if his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: Little Ray

I’m law enforcement and have been for almost 13 years. I can say without hesitation that the day they tell us to do that 90% of us would quit.

I took an oath to support and uphold the constitution and that included the 2nd amendment.

I don’t think this scenario will ever happen in my lifetime and it would not be enforced as law enforcement agencies and agents would refuse to carry it out.

Everyone thinks Federal agents would do this but I know plenty of them and it’s no different for them than it is for cops and most of them are just regular Joe’s.

I was in the Army for 7 years before that and I don’t think they would do it either.

That’s my .02


160 posted on 04/27/2007 11:48:09 AM PDT by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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To: Little Ray
Guardsmen?

The day we get an order like that at my unit is the day that most of us head for the door. They might get UN forces to carry out such a plan, but not U.S. forces.

168 posted on 04/27/2007 12:55:20 PM PDT by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal)
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To: Little Ray

This is the standard LEO argument as seen on the H&K forum, among others. Problem is, I am not the only gun owner in the country. You can’t isolate and surround a hundred million people piecemeal as you would a maniac or a drug gang, and reduce them one at a time.

What will those other millions of gun owners be doing while law enforcement applies massive force to a single target? People are not going to wait patiently in their homes for the jackboots to show up at the door. As we have seen here, many, many of the most skilled and experienced LEOs and military personnel would simply refuse orders to carry this out. The fascist authorities would still find plenty who would, or recruit low-level deputies from the thuggish moonbat population, but what are their chances of pulling it off?

Remember the resources that were concentrated at Waco. Now multiply that by a million or more.

If ATF had been trying to do the same thing to the whole state of Texas that they were trying to do to the Davidians, they never would have reached that compound.


176 posted on 04/27/2007 3:47:01 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Rousing the blog-rabble since 9-11-01)
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