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To: gpapa

My impression is that Rudy does not support such abortions. In fact, they are not even supported by Roe v. Wade, which allows states to limit third trimester abortions. He’s come out in support of the recent SC ruling and has said he supports the justices appointed by Bush.

So, I don’t think it’s accurate to claim Rudy supports “abortion on demand.” Words mean things.


350 posted on 04/27/2007 12:17:25 PM PDT by zook
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To: zook
So, I don’t think it’s accurate to claim Rudy supports “abortion on demand.” Words mean things.

My gawd, Rudy has perfect ratings from NARAL and planned parenthood. He addressed NARAL - twice. He said he'd pay for his granddaughter to have an abortion.

Words are cheap. Actions speak volumes. Rudy's past puts the lie to his words. And yours.

354 posted on 04/27/2007 12:19:14 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: zook
"So, I don’t think it’s accurate to claim Rudy supports “abortion on demand.” Words mean things."

How do you reconcile that with his endeavour to secure taxpayer funds for abortions? Actions mean far more than words and while the nation's abortion rates declined 5%, New York's only dropped 1% making that city known as the Abortion Capitol of the USA, no doubt with Giuliani's assistance. That speaks volumes also.

We're all wise enough to know when government confiscates funds from taxpayers to fund anything, that thing is exploited by all involved so more funds will be needed. We're also grown up enough to realize when you make a specific "procedure" readily available rather than provide a sane alternative, that "procedure" will become "normal" behavior.

360 posted on 04/27/2007 12:25:36 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: zook
He’s come out in support of the recent SC ruling

Let's deconstruct that for a second... he's been opposed to the PBA ban, but he respects the Court's ruling. This could mean one of three things:

  1. He's lying
  2. He's had a sudden "change of heart" that has curiously not manifested itself elsewhere
  3. He agrees with the court that Congress has the right to pass the law, not that he agrees with it.
My money's on #3, by the way.

and has said he supports the justices appointed by Bush.

He also thinks that Ginsburg was an ideal candidate for the Court, too.

364 posted on 04/27/2007 12:30:22 PM PDT by kevkrom
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To: zook

To suggest that 3rd trimester abortions are not permitted by Roe vs. Wade is incorrect. There are still ten States that allow abortions after fetal viability. Thus, abortions can still occur in the third trimester should any State so decide. Rudy is only a very recent convert to the anti-PBA side of the debate. He has previously been opposed to such a ban. He does however still agrees that Roe vs Wade is settled law. The two justices Bush II appointed to the Court agree with Rudy as neither suggested in the PBA decision that the original ruling in Roe vs Wade was unconstitional. Only Judge Thomas and Judge Scalia have consistently ruled that the Roe vs Wade decision was unconstitutional. They reaffirmed that position in the PBA case.


387 posted on 04/27/2007 1:16:06 PM PDT by gpapa
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