Posted on 04/25/2007 11:44:25 PM PDT by Stoat
Health and Science Ping
Pro Life Ping
Moral Absolutes Ping
British women still make babies?
“Tests will allow the couples to take the unprecedented step of selecting embryos free from a gene that carries a heightened risk of the cancer but does not always cause it.”
And of course, in their all-knowing, all seeing intellectual state, they are proof-positive that that gene, when it does not cause or predispose one to cancer - due also to related life and environment factors - that it otherwise invokes no benefit towards any other “health” issue. /sarc
Of course, they know no such thing, but are willing to play God as if they do. The time will come when their toying with our design will turn out unforeseen burdens on humanity. But the originators of those “design corrections” will be no longer living to accept their guilt.
That’s nice. Instead of potentially dealing with breast cancer, these kids can die of matricide.
Eh, a BRCA1 mutation is a pretty nasty little gene. And it’s little cousin BRCA2 is, as well.
These enzymes normally help repair DNA damaged by exposure to carcinogens, radiation, or just general replication errors. Mutations associated with cancer in these genes pretty much takes out a pretty important part of your DNA repair machinery. The fact that they interact with p53 ought to say enough about their roles, frankly (at least to those who research them).
I’m not for choosing designer babies, but if we can snuff out a very strong risk for a disease, I’m not wholly opposed. We already allow choice by sex to some degree. Why not for families with strong histories of disease, especially for a disease so closely linked to one single gene?
Yes, it’s a slippery slope, and on those grounds, I’ll be rethinking this. How far from there to saying you start hearing demands for this or that?
where do you think the Chupicabra came from
thanks, bfl & watch out for ghouls
where do you think the Chupicabra came from
What is “the Chupicabra”?
“Yes, it’s a slippery slope, and on those grounds, I’ll be rethinking this”
And exactly because of that “slippery slope” I do not have to “rethink this” and the individual expedient benefits to me do not outweigh the adverse impacts to come precisely from that “slippery slope” of human hubris, arrogance, moral relativism and error that that slope will drift down into.
We are entering the territories of our worst errors - when we think we are God’s equal.
We are not.
“That’s nice. Instead of potentially dealing with breast cancer, these kids can die of matricide.”
Oh, “these kids” being the ones that might become fully formed fetuses in the womb, before mum decides that as they have the “suspect” gene to have a partial birth abortion (her choice, not a requirement of the circumstances)
versus
the fetuses she has the lab kill anyway, for having discovered the gene sooner in their development.
And the difference in those deaths is exactly what?
Oh, that’s right, there is no difference, both are “matricide”, so your point is?
Whereas, my point is that in spite of the “possibility” of developing breast cancer, simply because of the gene, (a)some with the gene never do get breast cancer, (b)some with the gene who do get breast cancer get treatment and survive and (d) new treatments and cures are coming into the fore all the time. So, let the genes go their way, accept the child your act of pro-creation gave you, raise it and nurture it to the best of your ability and use your knowledge and faith and your child’s knowledge and faith to overcome life’s hurdles as they come, if they come.
The purpose of faith is not that life will be without hurdles, but that with faith you will get through them. Meanwhile, don’t play God.
As we kill our children before they get a disease, we try to ignore the fact that human beings get diseases, injuries, handicaps throughout life.
Hold the pickles, hold the lettuce... Uh, yeah, could you hold on a minute, ok I want the #3 super deal and can you add a cute little dimple in the chin, thanks.
My point is, it is killing its potential victims is an evil way to “cure” breast cancer.
While it does give a child the benefit of being free of a gene that greatly increases risk of a certain type of cancer, breast in this case, it does not prevent the child from getting the disease because of environmental factors, i.e. the highly argued Abortion/Breast Cancer link or no link for example and takes some focus away from those issues. It's a slippery slope.
Always wondered where in the bible it said that cannot improve our physical form or remove deficiencies?
We’re not perfect, maybe he created us weak and slow so we’d have something to build on?
Scary stuff.
Are we all going to be 6’2 with blonde hair in 3 more generations?
My point is, it is killing its potential victims is an evil way to “cure” breast cancer.
Is it killing a victim or do the other embryos go to other couples? I would be totally into that if they did not destroy embryos.
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