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1 posted on 04/25/2007 9:37:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Rudy Giuliani offers the best and most practical hope to fight off the evil empire of American politics—the Clinton Family—because he remains a national hero and is not tarnished by the Iraq war.

Where do we start with this? First of all, Rudy couldn't even outpoll Hillary in the 2000 NY Senate race when he was sitting mayor of NYC and she was a carpetbagger. And second, what is this "tainted" by the Iraq War routine? Does that mean that Rudy is gonna turn on the war if he wins the nomination so he can run leftwards against the war? Is that what the GOP really wants in a candidate?

What's more, Giuliani's "urban conservative" message of freedom for all evokes the origins of the Grand Old Party—while chipping away at the core voter base of the Democrats.

Rudy's Giuliani's message of freedom is that your guns are the government's for taking if it wants them. But you have a claim on the taxpayers if you want to exercise your "freedom" to kill your unborn child and can't pay for it.

But don't exercise your First Amendment freedom to criticize Rudy on the sides of a New York bus - he'll try to yank the ads off.

2 posted on 04/25/2007 9:42:20 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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I LOVE how the best argument for Julie is that he can beat Hillary.

Well guess what people.. Hillary hasn,t been nominated and I refuse to vote for a baby killer based on something that has not happened no matter how probable.

In any case I will have to stand before my Maker and explain this and, well... I just couldn't!

3 posted on 04/25/2007 9:43:51 AM PDT by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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Chistians for Thompson. Ping.


4 posted on 04/25/2007 9:44:07 AM PDT by AmericanGunner
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When I tell my liberal friends and associates that there are only a handful of Republicans that I would vote for before Hillary Clinton,

LMFAO!

The author is basically saying that he would prefer to vote for Hillary, but he likes Rudy better. The assumption is that if Rudy isn't the nominee, he will vote for Hillary. Which is probably who a lot of the other Rudy Rooters will be voting for (though they will NEVER admit it here), because Hillary's beliefs are totally consistent with the Rudy Rooters.

7 posted on 04/25/2007 9:48:15 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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What kind of bizarro-world logic is this? The writer needs to lay off the sauce. Especially idiotic is this line: Without Ted Haggard to tell them how to vote, Republicans of all stripes seem to be coming to the same conclusion—that the perfect should not be the enemy of the good, especially when the cost of failure is a sequel to President Clinton.
8 posted on 04/25/2007 9:49:01 AM PDT by xjcsa (The "average temperature" of the earth is as meaningful as the "average number" in a phone book.)
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“Republicans don’t like being losers. Being losers is why people become Democrats.”

I buy that but I don’t buy the rest of it.

Thompson/Daniels 08!


9 posted on 04/25/2007 9:49:02 AM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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Christians for Rudy? That is a oxymoron if I ever heard of one.


10 posted on 04/25/2007 9:49:29 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (President Fred Thompson will finally give the University of Memphis the respect that it is due!)
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“...cost of failure is a sequel to President Clinton.”

This is the platform of the rudeebotts.

It (the sequel) is also the the very real risk and likelyhood of a rudee persidency.....


12 posted on 04/25/2007 9:50:36 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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And yes, the Religious Right will vote for Rudy Giuliani just like they voted for Arnold Schwarzenegger in California in 2003 and again in 2006.

Wanna bet?

I'd die first.

13 posted on 04/25/2007 9:50:48 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness)
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Hmm.

The title says “Christians for Rudy Giuliani”...yet these are the only reasons I could find in the article for a Christian to support Rudy Giuliani:

1) He’s a “winner” and is the only one who can beat Hillary.
2) He’s raising more money from family-oriented people (people who most likely only know by his 9/11 connection) than Mitt Romney.
3) Republicans don’t like to lose.
4) Other renowned Christians are supporting him.

Hmm. And no mention is made of Rudy Giuliani’s exact positions on the issues and all of his flip-flopping on them in recent weeks.

Sure, I’m convinced. Throw all my principles away! It’ll get me a candidate who’s totally opposed to most of my principles, but at least I’ll win!

“But what would you win?”

Pipe down conscience, I don’t need to listen to you.

*sigh*


17 posted on 04/25/2007 9:52:18 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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If it wasn't already obvious that this guy is clueless:

While Democrats like to fall in love with a candidate—Howard Dean or Senator Obama, for example—Republicans prefer picking winners.

The Democrats did not pick Howard Dean -- they picked John Kerry, who they considered the most electable.

Barack Obama is more electable than the widely disliked Hillary.

19 posted on 04/25/2007 9:52:28 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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But...but...I thought Giuliani doesn't need the Christian vote. He's going to get all those independent and moderate votes in blue states, right?

These Christians for Rudy also support Democrats and believe it's "Christian" to support global warming and pay equality too.

20 posted on 04/25/2007 9:52:55 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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Christians for Rudy Giuliani

Yeah....right

21 posted on 04/25/2007 9:53:39 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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"While most Republicans would rather support a candidate who opposed abortion rights and supported the Second Amendment, they also realize that, after seven years of George W. Bush's religious-right mobilization efforts, Americans would be hard pressed to elect such a person."

So, a pro-life second amendment supporter is unelectable? Sorry but I don't buy that for a second. At worst the abortion issue splits right down the middle. Further, since the VT shootings it seems to be the the big dems who are avoiding launching another anti-gun crusade, in fact they seem scared to death of the issue. I think a hard core anti-gun, pro-abortion position would be much more damaging to a pol than the opposite.

23 posted on 04/25/2007 9:54:21 AM PDT by joebuck
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Not this one.


24 posted on 04/25/2007 9:54:31 AM PDT by rintense (Rudy is nothing more than a Dem with an R behind his name. I'm 4 Thompson!)
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Giuliani's "urban conservative" message of freedom for all evokes the origins of the Grand Old Party


27 posted on 04/25/2007 9:55:30 AM PDT by jdm (If you don't want to slip on banana peels, then eat your fruit in carpeted rooms!)
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To be totally honest, I do “NOT” wish to hold my nose while voting for Rudy because he is the only candidate running against Hillary.

As a Christians, his social ideas as well as policies are questionable. I’m not an one issue voter but his wishy-washiness on abortion makes me question him in “all” areas.

28 posted on 04/25/2007 9:55:45 AM PDT by Paige ("Facts are stubborn things. " President Ronald Reagan)
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Christians for Rino Rudy = Jews for Hitler

Both incredible dumb moves.


29 posted on 04/25/2007 9:56:25 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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So, one rich, greedy "Christian" willing to support a man that supports killing unborn children, believes homosexuality is good and normal and is thrice-married, public adulterer is indicative of conservative Christians as a whole?

It goes without saying, it would be a sin to vote for a man whose beliefs are hostile to Biblical morality.

35 posted on 04/25/2007 10:03:33 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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Christians Collaborators for Rudy Giuliani. Fixed.
41 posted on 04/25/2007 10:08:33 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Hillary, Rudy, Obama: The presidency is not a coronation.)
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