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To: StarCMC
That is silly. Jesus would look at the pregnant woman and say “Go and sin no more.”

He would do much more than that. He would also admonish his church to provide for all her needs, until they were completely met.

Hey, what about your individual responsibility for your own sins? If you're so big on individual reponsibility, why are you relying on God's grace and Jesus' sacrifice to make up for your failings? You couldn't take personal responsibility for your sin even if you tried. Not even 1% of it.

See my point? Liberalism says, "We're not responsible, we're just born that way." Conservatism says, "We are responsible, now just watch us while we take personal responsibility -- and admonish others to do the same, loudly."

The Gospel says, "I am responsible for my own sin, but can do nothing on my own. I need God's love and grace to forgive my debts."

95 posted on 04/25/2007 6:26:16 AM PDT by Silly (http://www.sarcasmoff.com)
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To: Silly
He would also admonish his church to provide for all her needs, until they were completely met.

Yes, but how does that equate to "taxpayer expense?" The church is NOT the government. In our town there are several of these types of organizations which care for unwed pregnant women out of their love for their God (in the Jewish instances) or their Jesus (in Christian instances.)

Hey, what about your individual responsibility for your own sins? If you're so big on individual reponsibility, why are you relying on God's grace and Jesus' sacrifice to make up for your failings? You couldn't take personal responsibility for your sin even if you tried. Not even 1% of it.

I AM individually responsible for the choices I make.

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Individual responsibility can be found in many places of the Book of Ezekiel.

Ezekiel 18:20 states: The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. The son is not responsible for the behavior of the Father, and the father is not responsible for the behavior of the son in terms of eternal life or eternal death. Each has a direct relationship with his Maker and each must be accountable for his actions.

In Ezekiel 3:17-21 God also applies this same logic to the relationship of the prophet and those to whom the prophet is sent by God. If the prophet warns the wicked as God has instructed him, and the wicked fail to heed the warning, the prophet is freed from his responsibility to God. However, if the prophet fails to give the proper warning to the wicked, the prophet is held responsible to God for not helping the wicked person escape death.

In Ezekiel 14:14-20 God says that the righteousness of Noah, Daniel and Job can only assist in their own deliverance, but their righteousness has no effect on other people who are in the land of these men. When God permits the beasts to prowl, the sword to shed blood or pestilence to destroy life, the sons and daughters that live in the land are not spared simply because of the righteousness of Noah, Daniel and Job. The sons and daughters have to deliver their own soul by their own righteousness.

In the New Testament when sinners go astray from the word of the Lord, their belief in the risen Lord and his righteousness takes away their sin to allow them to return to the Lord and be at one with God.

I was lazy there and copied from another website, but there are many, many more indications that God is a God of personal responsibility. You can't separate that from the scriptures. It doesn't mean that we can PAY for what we've done in ourselves, it means that we have a responsibility to live appropriately in the grace we've been given.

105 posted on 04/25/2007 6:39:37 AM PDT by StarCMC (Honor military recruiters in all 50 states ~ May 19, 2007 ~ http://gatheringofeagles.org/?p=257)
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