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To: Liz

I appreciate your effort to flatter Jim while encouraging him not to think. Good for you.

But you know very little about statistics, or city crime.

Breaking windows is not a prank, it is, actually, a misdemeanor and sometimes a crime. What Giuliani did was not go after the ‘pranksters’ but made building owners keep their windows patched. You ever heard of the Broken Windows approach to crime? Do some reading. It’ll be good for your brain.

Furthermore, it’s just plain asinine to say that by boosting statistics for minor crimes, he could make murder look lower in comparison. He didn’t need to make murder rates look lower comparatively. Murder went down in real terms, in real numbers. Big numbers.

Now, if you want to argue about who is responsible for that, go ahead. But it wasn’t Dinkins, and it wasn’t some crime fighter in Nebraska. If you want to deny Giuliani any credit for cleaning up NYC, be my guest. No serious thinking person would agree with you.


61 posted on 04/25/2007 5:49:30 AM PDT by Silly (http://www.sarcasmoff.com)
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To: Silly
"Silly."

Nuff said.........ROTFLMBO.

83 posted on 04/25/2007 6:19:09 AM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: Silly
the anti-Rudys would be more effective if they didn’t try and diminish each and every accomplishment. They have become to Rudy what DU and Kos are to GW. Unfortunately, their fear and loathing has clouded their reason.
202 posted on 04/25/2007 1:37:24 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: Silly

Your attitude toward Jim is repulsive.


212 posted on 04/25/2007 8:24:14 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: Silly; Liz

“He didn’t need to make murder rates look lower comparatively. Murder went down in real terms, in real numbers. Big numbers.”

Ah! Indeed the crime rate declined in NYC, just as did the trend throughout the entire nation according to FBI crime statistics - except there’s one bit of info not factored in by Giuliani’s supporters; under his direction, the city spent $3 billion per year on the police system which works out to plus/minus $81,000 annually for each person on the police force. It’s not to say costs aren’t worth the result - it’s just that as akin to the costs associated with the US troop surge in Baghdad, one should expect a decline in violence and property crime. But the results aren’t all that much better than that of the nation as a whole.

http://www.gothamgazette.com/article//20030113/202/129

With that kind of funding, anyone ought expect a significant decline in crime.

Regards....


257 posted on 04/26/2007 12:19:23 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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