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Your Gun Rights Could Soon Hang In The Balance
Gun Owners of America ^ | Apr 23, 2007 | NA

Posted on 04/24/2007 7:46:30 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem
What part of...

...cold, dead hands...

do they fail to understand?

21 posted on 04/25/2007 4:23:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: neverdem
No doubt you are familiar with the countless number of times that the NICS system has erroneously blocked honest Americans from buying a gun, or have heard about the times that the NICS computer system has SUSPIOUSLY crashed for days at a time, thus preventing all sales nationwide -- and effectively shutting down every weekend gun show.
22 posted on 04/25/2007 4:25:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
There is no reason that any private citizen in a democracy should own a handgun.

There is also no reason ANYONE should own a vaccuum cleaner unless they are a licensed ABORTIONIST either.

23 posted on 04/25/2007 4:27:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: neverdem

Liberals have been waiting for an opportunity to steal guns from law-abiding citizens and deliberately leave them in the hands of criminals.


24 posted on 04/25/2007 4:28:30 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Elsie
Am I mentally ill to want to own this?


25 posted on 04/25/2007 4:30:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz (JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
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To: snowsislander
Well I haven't heard that the NRA is actually supporting anything. The GOA is the number two organization in gun rights advocacy and they have a history of trying to discredit the NRA, but the facts presented here are actually quite thin, and don't support that conclusion.

The gun ban crowd has engaged a guy who once had an association with the NRA, but left when it became clear that it was swerving to the political right and no longer prepared to give up ground through compromise... big deal. Just because he's been engaged to have the conversation doesn't mean it's occurring.

But even if it were, if I were the head of the NRA and the authors of a new law wanted to talk to us about it, I would certainly do that. It doesn't mean we would endorse it, only that we would talk. I'd listen, and then calmly explain that our membership will not support any politician of any political stripe who thinks the solution to any problem is to punish the 90 million American law abiding gun owners who have done nothing wrong.

And the "quotes" regarding NRA policy aren't attributed to anyone at the NRA but to the Washington Post... not exactly a reliable source of inside information on the details of goings on at the NRA.

Also, with the recent Zumbo incident, the NRA has to know that their members are not prepared to negotiate anything away. If they signed on to any other gun law it would mean a change in the leadership of the organization. Several million members would be looking for Wayne LaPierre's head on a bayonet. The NRA doesn't dictate it's policies to it's members as the post would have you believe, but has those policies dictated to it.

All this sounds like a hit piece to me, which is designed more to reduce NRA credibility than to protect gun owners rights.

With that said, I think any new gun law of any kind should be resisted on every level. In fact, the recent VT shooting should be used to show how important it is to repeal the idiotic feel good legislation already in place regarding firearms.

But I wouldn't go rushing away from the NRA just yet.

26 posted on 04/25/2007 4:47:38 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: Lazamataz

If you buy it without the 70 round drum magazine, I think you are yeah.


27 posted on 04/25/2007 4:48:41 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: Tabi Katz

GOA said that also.


28 posted on 04/25/2007 5:05:39 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
29 posted on 04/25/2007 5:39:32 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: neverhillorat
Why does it seem that GOA is always slamming the NRA? Money?

Because the NRA is always willing to sell out it's members' rights rather than fight against gun control.

The NRA is a "compromise" organization that preemptively surrenders almost every time. Unfortunately the anti-gunners idea of "compromise" is to try and take away everything and then settle for only taking away some (this time) There is NEVER anything that the anti-gunners give back. A true compromise would be letting this bill pass contingent on throwing out the 1986 machine gun ban.

30 posted on 04/25/2007 5:45:39 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: Tabi Katz

Please see my post number 20.

I don’t think there is any actual evidence which shows that the NRA is supporting additional gun regulation. Just more innuendo from the Washington Post, and undocumented assertions from the GOA.


31 posted on 04/25/2007 5:46:17 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: neverdem
And the obvious thing about saying..."And these people and those people will NEVER BE ABLE TO OWN a gun again"...is WRONG..which is, IMO the greater point. "They" can just go the route of the criminal....which is what is happening now.
32 posted on 04/25/2007 5:52:17 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: BlackbirdSST
2nd that!!

Molon Labe

33 posted on 04/25/2007 5:54:04 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: neverdem

So, all you’d need is for all the shrinks to get together and say that anyone who wants to own a gun is crazy....


34 posted on 04/25/2007 5:54:49 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Joe Brower
I'd add a reverse to your three speed Sheep.

Fleeced

35 posted on 04/25/2007 5:56:05 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: neverhillorat
Why does it seem that GOA is always slamming the NRA?

Probably because the NRA sells out. Just a guess.

36 posted on 04/25/2007 5:57:46 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: from occupied ga

That strikes me as a fair compromise.


37 posted on 04/25/2007 5:59:26 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius
That strikes me as a fair compromise.

That would be a compromise, but the anti-gunner's definition of compromise is to demand everything and only takes part of it today and then come back for the rest later.

38 posted on 04/25/2007 6:04:53 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: from occupied ga
Your complaint about the NRA is an old one, and I think the results of the last 10 years or so make it pretty clear that it’s no longer valid, and hasn’t been for a while.
39 posted on 04/25/2007 6:05:48 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: Publius Valerius

Where do you get that? Can someone tell me how the NRA’s current leadership has sold out because I don’t see it.


40 posted on 04/25/2007 6:06:39 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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