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Cheney: Threat of nuclear attack in U.S. city 'very real'
Chicago Tribune ^ | April 16, 2007 | By Mark Silva

Posted on 04/24/2007 9:39:37 AM PDT by needlenose_neely

WASHINGTON -- Vice President Dick Cheney, often called upon to deliver the administration's toughest talk about the wars abroad, now says this about the threat of terrorists detonating a nuclear bomb in an American city: "It's a very real threat. ... Something that we have to worry about and defeat every single day."

Cheney's warning about what's at stake for the U.S. in withdrawing from Iraq, delivered in a TV interview Sunday and coupled with a speech in Chicago on Friday and a war statement that President Bush plans to make Monday, is part of an escalating chorus of pressure that the White House hopes to exert on Democrats to approve a new war-spending bill...

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To: needlenose_neely

I don’t think that not doing a thing and merely “waiting for the inevitable” is a good strategy, either. I sincerely don’t know what to do. Glad I am not the President.


21 posted on 04/24/2007 10:10:03 AM PDT by Desperately Seeking Freedom
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To: Obadiah
If necessary, I sure hope so.

The problem, of course, is that Cheney et al have led us down this path before . . .

22 posted on 04/24/2007 10:10:04 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: PAUL REVERE TODAY
Well, if a bomb is smuggled across the border, it will be a terrible indictment on administrations that did nothing to enforce our borders.

Unfortunately, indictments don't bring back the dead.

23 posted on 04/24/2007 10:10:12 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: DogBarkTree; needlenose_neely
>We wont fully commit to the war until after we lose an entire city
>It could be several cities


As bad as nukes are,
when you cut through the nuke "hype" [?]
you don't "lose cities"

when a bomb goes off.
There are web calculators
that show nuke effects.

Thousands would die and
a city would be messed up,
but not turned to glass.

24 posted on 04/24/2007 10:10:58 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: DogBarkTree
We wont fully commit to the war until after we lose an entire city.

That is my argument with the liberals. When I ask them what they think the target for another terrorist attack will be, they of course say a large city. Then, I ask where the liberals live and they have the same answer.

That is when I tell them they had better support the WOT or get ready to lose many of their voters. I told one lib that if we would lose, LA, San Fran, NY, Boston, Chicago, etc., that would eliminate many democrat voters. They have yet to come up with any argument to contradict my point of view.

25 posted on 04/24/2007 10:12:30 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Guns don't kill people. None of my guns ever left the house at night and killed anyone.)
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To: needlenose_neely

>It could be several cities.<

Unless Al Queda has the goods and the means to deliver airborne missles, my guess is that ‘suitcase’ bombs which have been smuggled into the country over nonexistent borders, open ports, and the Chinese operated Panama Canal, could be denonated strategically in a number of locations. Then watch the remaining backbone of the country crumble as all those ‘illegals’ come to collect us. A nightmare, Mr. Cheney. Thank you very much.


26 posted on 04/24/2007 10:12:40 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge,)
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To: Desperately Seeking Freedom

One thing we can do is make sure that the Islamofacists don’t get control of Pakistan and their nukes.


27 posted on 04/24/2007 10:12:45 AM PDT by needlenose_neely
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To: Centurion2000

I don’t think true fusion bombs have ever been miniaturized, have they? The max yield I’ve seen for suitcase nukes is in the 10-15KT range.


28 posted on 04/24/2007 10:14:07 AM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: theFIRMbss

You are right. Trouble is that the onus of dealing with it would fall totally on the federal government. Can you imagine the hysterical calls for the government to do something? And who knows what action the federal government would take, then? Martial law? Suspension of the Constitution? Confiscation of all private guns?
There was a time in this country when residents of a city faced with a disaster would band together and get back on their feet. That time is long past. Now, they just trudge to the Superdome and wait for the Gubberment to do something.


29 posted on 04/24/2007 10:15:58 AM PDT by Desperately Seeking Freedom
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To: Paperdoll
That is a viable scenario that has been part of the discussion for a number of years.

Stanislov Lunev first warned of that kind of scenario in the 90s.

30 posted on 04/24/2007 10:16:36 AM PDT by needlenose_neely
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To: needlenose_neely

I heard that due (or one like him) on Coast To Coast AM one night. Very frightening.


31 posted on 04/24/2007 10:17:47 AM PDT by Desperately Seeking Freedom
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To: cicero's_son
That is the size expected, around 10KT.

The biggest problem is, multiple explosions at once, in various cities.

32 posted on 04/24/2007 10:18:14 AM PDT by needlenose_neely
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To: Desperately Seeking Freedom

Sadly, most Americans are not prepared for any kind of disaster. Most of us live from week to week. I live in hurricane country and learned the value of having vital needs stored for emergencies. Most in the cities have nothing stored for emergencies.


33 posted on 04/24/2007 10:22:47 AM PDT by needlenose_neely
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To: needlenose_neely

Never heard of Stanislov Lunev, so my concept must be an affirmation.


34 posted on 04/24/2007 10:24:02 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge,)
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To: needlenose_neely

Wasnt Nagsaki a 10KT bomb?


35 posted on 04/24/2007 10:30:50 AM PDT by gun_supporter
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To: Paperdoll
Spelling was bad. It's Stanislav Lunev.

Read up:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=stanislav+lunev&spell=1

36 posted on 04/24/2007 10:34:36 AM PDT by needlenose_neely
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To: gun_supporter

Yep.


37 posted on 04/24/2007 10:34:57 AM PDT by needlenose_neely
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To: cicero's_son
I don’t think true fusion bombs have ever been miniaturized, have they? The max yield I’ve seen for suitcase nukes is in the 10-15KT range.

This isn't a suitcase bomb but it would certainly fit in a truck or a container. W-80 warhead (10-150Kt fusion weapon)

Another little blurb

The W47 was 18 inches in diameter and 47 inches long, and weighed 720 pounds in the Y1 model and 733 pounds in the Y2 model. The Y1 model had design yield of 600 kilotons and the Y2 model had a doubled design yield of 1.2 megatons.

38 posted on 04/24/2007 10:58:23 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: theFIRMbss
As bad as nukes are, when you cut through the nuke "hype" [?] you don't "lose cities"

Glad someone else has realized this.

39 posted on 04/24/2007 10:59:24 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: Centurion2000
Nukes are over-rated. Mostly 'noise and light'.

40 posted on 04/24/2007 11:07:15 AM PDT by beeber (stuned)
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