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To: tarheelswamprat; No.6

This scenario appears repeatedly in these threads, understandably so. However, I believe it is a false dilemma,
***Did I hear FALSE DILEMMA? Time for the rudybots to answer their own false dilemma. Here’s one that I routinely post and get crickets.

Hildebeast is eminently beatable, this nonsense about rudy being the only one who can beat her is horse manure and impolite on this socon forum. For example, this article:
“Long Shot GOP Candidate Brownback Just Five Points Behind Clinton”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1798666/posts
We know that it simply means it’s very early in the race and that even no-name candidates are only 5 points behind Clinton. So the rudybots should stop supporting a social liberal on this social conservative forum and pick a real winner, rather than a ridiculous loser liberal like rudy.

The 2 polls on Free Republic put forth an obvious SOCON (only Hunter fits that description given) versus a SOLIB (it certainly fits rudy).
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=171
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=172

Rudy splits the base.

I have noticed time and again that rudy supporters rudely send up the false dilemma of “who would you vote for, Hildebeast or Rudy”. This particularly impolite at this early of a point in the primary cycle. Since this is a socon forum (not even a GOP forum), it is very impolite to ask double-bind questions, especially this early in the race.

Since team rudy is so fond of its own false dilemma, I would expect them to answer this false dilemma.

My contention: If rudy gets the nomination, he splits the base, possibly splits the republican party, and loses the election.

Rudy followers’ contention: If Hunter gets it, he wins the base and loses the election.

Hypothetical to answer the rudy followers’ hypothetical. Both sides losing to Hillary.
Side A: The solib republican splits the base. The MSM turns on him the moment he is nominated. Hillary wins. Republican party is split.
Side B: The socon republican wins the nomination, loses to hildebeast in a tough fight. Republicans are united against the hillary presidency.

Which candidate is best for the republican party, Side A or Side B?

Win-Win false dilemma:
Side A: Solib wins presidency by ignoring the socon base and permanently splitting the republican party.
Side B: SoCon wins presidency by (obviously) relying on the socon base.

Which candidate is best for the republican party, Side A or Side B?

Regardless of who wins or loses, Free Republic and the republican party is better off with Duncan Hunter than Rudy as the candidate. This social liberal candidate is simply not healthy for the republican party nor for FR. And rudy followers are proving to be very impolite freepers.

Duncan Hunter’s campaign website
http://www.gohunter08.com/


7,612 posted on 04/24/2007 2:42:39 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Kevmo; tarheelswamprat; Jim Robinson

“nonsense about rudy being the only one who can beat her is horse manure”

I agree unconditionally. Conservatism wins every time it stands up for itself. The only reason the question of what-if-Rudy-wins comes to my mind is this:

Many states have open primaries. If the Dims have pretty much resolved their contest by the time that state’s primaries roll around, all the Dims vote in *our* primary. You know which Republican they’ll pick. So, to win in the primaries we have to not only hold firm but also beat the crossovers.

Anyway now is the time to fiercely demand the best. Didn’t mean to stir up hornet’s nests, but since our founder has been posting fervently I thought it’d be good to get his word on the subject, which we now have.

Oh, Kevmo: no point of talking about ‘socon.’ There’s only conservative and not conservative.


7,982 posted on 04/24/2007 5:53:21 PM PDT by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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