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To: mkjessup; veronica

In my opinion, the rudy people were looking for something to pick them up. They are tired of losing every argument here, tired of not being able to defend their candidate to conservatives, and afraid that if they keep losing it will catch on.

It looks like some of them were chosen to be “sacrificial lambs”, to say things to get banned so they might gain sympathy, or at least to go off and claim that conservatives can’t win the argument against them and so we banned them.

I don’t know how to explain attacking the honor of Jim Robinson, telling the pro-life conservatives here that they will be responsible for the death of babies if they don’t pick a pro-abortion candidate, or arguing that the Republican Party should be lead by a trained monkey so long as it means Hillary isn’t president.


582 posted on 04/21/2007 9:04:46 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Peach
I think you are reading far too much into this thing. Some people just like and support Rudy. That's all there is to it. To wit...

Papa Bush heaps praise on Rudy- (today's NY Daily News)

"Rudy Giuliani won some high praise from President Bush's father yesterday while politicking deep in the heart of Texas. "It was in his courage under fire starting the morning of Sept. 11 that the world saw the best of Rudy Giuliani," former President George H.W. Bush declared, introducing the former mayor to about 2,500 people at Texas A&M University in College Station. "We saw a genuine leader," he said.

Giuliani drew applause with his 30-minute speech in which he tied America's freedom and prosperity to victory in the war on terror. "We're going to have to win the war on terror, or as I call it, the terrorists' war on us," he said. "It's the greatest challenge of our generation."

607 posted on 04/21/2007 9:10:04 PM PDT by veronica
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Jim Robinson
In my opinion, the rudy people were looking for something to pick them up. They are tired of losing every argument here, tired of not being able to defend their candidate to conservatives, and afraid that if they keep losing it will catch on.

The fact is, Rudy is doing more than his fair share to torpedo his own campaign than any of the numnutz here on FR who seem to think he is a latter day 'Mr Republican'. Rudy IS indefensible, and he is indefensible in most cases by a simple citation of his own past words and deeds. I mean, how damning is it when your own MOTHER states that you (meaning Rudy) "isn't a conservative Republican, he thinks he is, but he's not"? And goes on to say that Rudy only became a Republican "after he started getting all those jobs from them". For the dedicated RudyBot, that's a steep grade to climb.

It looks like some of them were chosen to be “sacrificial lambs”, to say things to get banned so they might gain sympathy, or at least to go off and claim that conservatives can’t win the argument against them and so we banned them.

I'm not sure if it's anything that grandiose, most of the RudyBot tactics consist of repetition, posting and re-posting the same blah-blah-blah all the time, always the 'ORCSUFH' (Only Rudy Can Save Us From Hillary) garbage, and when Rudy's moral character is challenged (3 marriages, 1 to his cousin), the standard response is to say "well, Ronald Reagan was divorced", as if there is some sort of moral parallel between our highly principled 40th President, and a former mayor of New York City who believed so much in the institution of marriage, that he kept working on it until 'third time's the charm'. The RudyBot strategy is generally to subtly (or not-so-subtly) trash REAL conservatives in order to build up their boy, and that is a losing strategy to be sure. I think the recent spraying of FR for RudyPests and RINOS demonstrates that the R-bots finally reached the saturation point and JimRob said 'this far and no further'.

I don’t know how to explain attacking the honor of Jim Robinson, telling the pro-life conservatives here that they will be responsible for the death of babies if they don’t pick a pro-abortion candidate, or arguing that the Republican Party should be led by a trained monkey so long as it means Hillary isn’t president.

It is spelled desperation. The RudyBots know their candidate is in serious trouble, that is why they are so eager to post ANY polling data that puts their guy in a good light, when they KNOW that polling data 18 months away from the general election is absolutely meaningless.
If FR was a lumber yard instead of a website, JimRob would be up to his armpits in termites by now, and thank God he's doing something about it. If the GOP did nominate that Stealth 'Rat Rudy, I think I'd be inclined to write in JimRob's name on my ballot.
647 posted on 04/21/2007 9:20:34 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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