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To: LdSentinal
Because comparing it with Mr. Robinson’s original post, there would be reasonable particulars for banning supporters of Ron Paul and libertarians in general.

You are trying to compare apples to oranges. Jim has not set out to be a Nazi and squelch all speech that isn't Jim Robinson approved on the website. Rudy just goes against so many of the values that he couldn't possible be considered conservative. We aren't arguing whether Rudy is a Republican, we are arguing whether he is a conservative. You can be a conservative libertarian. Ron Paul is probably not going to recieve wide support here and his supporters will probably feel attacked at times so they might not be that comfortable here all the time.

But, really have you seen bands of Ron Paul supporters running all over the threads smearing other candidates, disrupting threads and insulting other posters because they have conservative beliefs? The majority of Ron Paul supporters will talk honestly about Ron Paul's views and they don't make him out to be somthing he is not. Jim is purging disruptors and promotion of liberal candidates, not stifling talk about the differences between conservative candidates.

4,262 posted on 04/22/2007 10:14:55 PM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Elyse
We aren't arguing whether Rudy is a Republican, we are arguing whether he is a conservative.

Exactly. Rudy is not a Conservative - he's a Republican. Since this website is oriented toward conservative issues, I'm not sure why discussions concerning the GOP are even relevant.

Conservatives who wish to participate in the GOP nomination process are in many ways RINOs. They're Republicans in Name Only in that they don't really support the broad coalition of positions that define the party.

Supporting Rudy's efforts to win the GOP nomination has about as much relevance at FR as postulating that Hillary! will win the Dem's. Neither has much to do with Conservatives.

The bottom line is that without a Reagan on the horizon who can define conservative ideals and sell them to the public, the GOP is going to move to the left in order to preserve political power. Rudy is the result of that calculus.

Conservatives are going to have to take a sabbatical in order to refine, polish & prepare the message for when a suitable standard-bearer appears. FR represents an excellent forum in which to hone this pitch.

4,298 posted on 04/22/2007 10:30:48 PM PDT by Chuck Dent
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