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To: Iwo Jima

My post was in response to what I consider an excellent analysis of the political reality facing us in 2008 in which the possibility of a Guliani war-time candidacy was profferred as an example of a possible Republican strategy.

I wasn’t aware that that made me a member of the “Rudy can win crowd”, or indeed any “crowd” since my opinion of the post was based on my own reflection on the post’s contents.

You ask if I think that Guliani can take Texas, adding the complaint that no one has bothered to respond to this question.

Perhaps the non-responders are like me, lacking the powers of divination that would enable us to predict the outcome of an election almost two years away in Texas or any other State.

I’m not sure where you get the idea that others “assume that red states vote Republican...” Perhaps it is part of your faith-based political acumen that permits you to see into the minds of others, and which apparently compels you to “believe” that Guliani cannot win Texas.

Since no candidates seem to grasp the the fact that we are at war, and though Guliani has stated that we are in a war, he, along with the others in both parties, seem almost blithely ignorant of what our enemies have planned for us, militarily and through the use of our laws and our demented commitment to the “multi-culti” excesses that hasten our doom.

Based on his public record in LE and during his time as mayor of New York City, Guliani seems capable of demonstrating the ruthlessness required to clean out our intelligence services, the DOJ and the State Department — or as they are usually referred to, the enemy within.

Whether or not this translates into votes is up to how informed voters are about the peril we face, and our slap-happy celebrity obsessed media will make certain that the reality of our situation, the imminent surrender of the West to lawless primitives, will not make it past the wall of solid fluff the media moguls have erected.

The red state/blue state split may have no part in the 2008 election as events unfold that shock voters into an awareness that on one thing, and one thing only, we cannot be divided, and that is our survival as a sovereign nation at war with a fanatical enemy.


14,748 posted on 04/29/2007 7:36:36 AM PDT by Barset
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To: Barset
You are making no sense, and are most disingenuous. In your original post you said,"If we can take NJ, PA, and FL, we can sustain the loss of Ohio and win. But there is only one Republican I can see, capable of winning in New Jersey."

You claim to have formed opinions that Rudy can take NJ, PA and FL, but cry that you are "lacking the powers of divination that would enable us to predict the outcome of an election almost two years away in Texas or any other State. So, you can divine about NJ, PA & FLA but not about Texas?

You fail to take into account that the very factors which make Rudy more attractive as a candidate in states such as NJ & PA make him less attractive in states like Texas, OK, Louisiana, Georgia, etc., etc., etc.

The bottom line is that if Rudy is the Republican candidate, you cannot count on Texas as a safe Republican state. It will be a battleground state, and the outcome up in the air.
14,753 posted on 04/29/2007 7:57:05 AM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Barset
“Based on his public record in LE and during his time as mayor of New York City, Guliani seems capable of demonstrating the ruthlessness required to clean out our intelligence services, the DOJ and the State Department — or as they are usually referred to, the enemy within.”

There’s no difference between Rudy’s position on the WOT on all the other candidates.

Second, we should nominate Rudy for head of Homeland Security if that is his strength. We don’t need him to be president.

Third, there is no evidence Rudy is a shoo-in to win NY, NJ or California. The DBM will highlight his corruption ties and flip-flops. Dems will paint him as a wild eyed liberal in the Red States, and as a too tough, arrogant, fascists in the blue states.

Fourth, if Rudy was so popular in NY, he would've ran for Governor or Senator. He barely won reelection as Mayor, and is extremely unpopular with NYC minorities.

He has no connection with Hispanics. Hey, vote for the NYC elitist, who is for abortion, Gay rights, and free trade with Cuba. Yeah, that will draw the Hispanics in!

Like I said, Rudy for Homeland Security, not POTUS.

14,766 posted on 04/29/2007 8:31:17 AM PDT by pablo H (Remember '96- No more Doles!)
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To: Barset
“Based on his public record in LE and during his time as mayor of New York City, Guliani seems capable of demonstrating the ruthlessness required to clean out our intelligence services, the DOJ and the State Department — or as they are usually referred to, the enemy within.”

There’s no difference between Rudy’s position on the WOT on all the other candidates.

Second, we should nominate Rudy for head of Homeland Security if that is his strength. We don’t need him to be president.

Third, there is no evidence Rudy is a shoo-in to win NY, NJ or California. The DBM will highlight his corruption ties and flip-flops. Dems will paint him as a wild eyed liberal in the Red States, and as a too tough, arrogant, fascists in the blue states.

Fourth, if Rudy was so popular in NY, he would've ran for Governor or Senator. He barely won reelection as Mayor, and is extremely unpopular with NYC minorities.

He has no connection with Hispanics. Hey, vote for the NYC elitist, who is for abortion, Gay rights, and free trade with Cuba. Yeah, that will draw the Hispanics in!

Like I said, Rudy for Homeland Security, not POTUS.

14,767 posted on 04/29/2007 8:31:17 AM PDT by pablo H (Remember '96- No more Doles!)
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To: Barset
“Based on his public record in LE and during his time as mayor of New York City, Guliani seems capable of demonstrating the ruthlessness required to clean out our intelligence services, the DOJ and the State Department — or as they are usually referred to, the enemy within.”

There’s no difference between Rudy’s position on the WOT on all the other candidates.

Second, we should nominate Rudy for head of Homeland Security if that is his strength. We don’t need him to be president.

Third, there is no evidence Rudy is a shoo-in to win NY, NJ or California. The DBM will highlight his corruption ties and flip-flops. Dems will paint him as a wild eyed liberal in the Red States, and as a too tough, arrogant, fascists in the blue states.

Fourth, if Rudy was so popular in NY, he would've ran for Governor or Senator. He barely won reelection as Mayor, and is extremely unpopular with NYC minorities.

He has no connection with Hispanics. Hey, vote for the NYC elitist, who is for abortion, Gay rights, and free trade with Cuba. Yeah, that will draw the Hispanics in!

Like I said, Rudy for Homeland Security, not POTUS.

14,768 posted on 04/29/2007 8:31:21 AM PDT by pablo H (Remember '96- No more Doles!)
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To: Barset
Since no candidates seem to grasp the the fact that we are at war,...

Duncan Hunter not only understands we are at war, he, unlike Rudy and the others, is actively involved in combating the terrorists and the Dems.

Meanwhile,his son is deploying to Iraq for the third time.

14,794 posted on 04/29/2007 9:32:09 AM PDT by airborne (Duncan Hunter is the only real choice for honest to goodness conservatives!)
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