OK, I’ll check some other Rudy threads. I was on one this morning and it wasn’t the Rudy supporters who were the most vicious, but I’ll look around.
I have to say that a fair amount of flaming has always been a part of FR, though, so I don’t see that as the primary reason for tossing these people out.
Culling the herd has some strange effects...;-)
I was on one this morning and it wasn’t the Rudy supporters who were the most vicious, but I’ll look around.
***It would serve you well to do a reality check. Looking on the rudy threads after this thing got started is still looking on the one side of the battlefield. You need to look at the rudy threads prior to last saturday.
I have to say that a fair amount of flaming has always been a part of FR, though, so I don’t see that as the primary reason for tossing these people out.
***Yes, the prior flaming is true, but this time what is different is that people are denigrating the CORE VALUES that drive this socon site and the socon movement.
Here’s an example from February
Just what ARE Rudy’s qualifications that make him the “BEST man to lead as CIC?”
Posted by Kevmo to Skip Ripley
On News/Activism 02/26/2007 5:31:39 PM PST · 466 of 486
You’re not listening...Rudy Giuliani won’t split anything.
***The last three FR polls show Rudy splitting the base. You’re not listening.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1782311/posts
He can’t...he is what he is.
***He is a liberal.
A “split party” is a reaction to a primary loss by a band of people who didn’t get thier way. Hence the term “sore loser”.
***Whig party is more like it. If you guys can’t learn from history and how the republican party was formed, then history will bypass you. By the way, it’s the GOP that’s leaving us, we’re not leaving it.
The only way the party will be split is if the folks who don’t get thier way in the primary opt out.
***Let’s just say we’re the Unicorn Admiration branch of the party, again. If we consistently see that Unicorn Admiration stuff is still on our platform but non-unicornian candidates have been calling us “sore losers” and “kool aid drinkers” and “party splitters” and “hillary voters” and the whole gamut, what do you think happens? The truth is that this here unicornian arm of the GOP commands some pretty impressive numbers, and we are all very reluctant to part with our unicornian belief systems. It’s the non-unicornians who don’t value their belief systems and can’t see the big deal about a few dead baby unicorns or the right for unicorns to keep and bear UnicornArms or the traditional Unicorn values. The non-unicorn side of the party is a bunch of losers. Whenever the party loses an election they blame it on us because we don’t fall in line with them. Whenever we win an election they preempt our values and say we’re too extreme. And the non-unicorns are too dense to realize that they risk breaking up the GOP Permanently.
The candidate does not tell them to stay home...he does not say “I break with thee, I break with thee, I break with thee”. Those “split” folks are the ones doing the splitting.
***No, but when the candidate accepts money from the Unicorn Hunters Association, and there’s 30Million dead baby Unicorns and the unicorns are blatantly ignored by that candidate, he is ONLY trying to win the dumb Unicornian vote. But basically, we Unicornians have our own candidate and we’re moving forward with him. This is a Unicornian website, so your candidate certainly making any brownie points by having his followers come here and talk down about unicorns, insulting unicornians, and ignoring dead baby unicorns. Why don’t you guys go to the other non-unicornian websites and win converts there? I’m sure the left-wing non-unicornian side of the democrat party is very willing to hear your candidate’s message.
My solution is this...we have the primaries...we support our candidates. We let the chips fall where they may.
***Agreed, and I look forward to your former mayor endorsing Duncan Hunter. Of course if it’s anything like the way he endorsed the last few GOP candidates, it will be a speech full of left-handed compliments.
When the dust settles and the air has cleared and a nominee is picked, we support him or her (Condi?) because we’re Republicans and we want Republicans to win.
***Good for you. Now, do yourself a favor and check to see if this is a republican website? Is it? Does the GOP pick up the check? Here, I’ll help you with the answer: NO. So the next time you come onto someone’s Unicorn Admiration Society website, try to learn a little bit of Unicorn before you start insulting them for not giving up their Unicornian beliefs. It’s just plain polite — and after all, the word “politic” comes from the word “polite”. I am not interested in your liberal candidate. I’m sure you can find some liberals who would be.
Now I know some of you are saying “No, I’m a Conservative, I want Conservatives to win” Great...then you should go off and form your own party.
***Got that. We have been hearing it more and more lately. It’s a numbers game from hereon in to determine whether or not we are welcome. If we aren’t, and we form our own party, the GOP is doomed. Good luck with that.
Either that or you can accept the decisions the majority of folks within your current party make and then work to steer that party towards your view.
***Well said.
Abandoning the party is not working to change it.
***If anything, the party would be abandoning us.
Abandoning the party is setting fire to it so you can argue about how best to put the blase out.
***Very well said, except that your starting premise is invalid so your conclusion is wrong. Other than that I like what you say.