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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Jim Robinson

RIGHT ON JIM R. Don’t give up Don’t accept the left liberal Guiliani just because he has an R behind his name rather than a D.


4,761 posted on 04/23/2007 9:10:17 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: Just sayin; CharacterCounts; Elyse

Is it possible that ALL of us have not only read your post, but fully understand what you are saying?

YOU want abortion to be a choice/right or whatever else you want to call it. You are the one promoting moral relativism and it is this attitude that results in over a million babies a year being slaughtered.


4,762 posted on 04/23/2007 9:10:44 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: EveningStar
You don’t even know what conservatism is. Real conservatives know how the government works. Real conservatives therefore know how to make political activism an effective tool rather than just an act of ego stroking.

A tool for what?

Without core principles, consistently applied, all you do is continue to enact the agenda of the Left.

People like you do more damage than any Democrat.

4,763 posted on 04/23/2007 9:11:55 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: Just sayin
Just remember you support removing choice when itisyours that is removed.

Choice?! The choice is to murder a baby or not murder a baby. You want to argue that someone should have a choice to murder another innocent human being?

4,764 posted on 04/23/2007 9:12:47 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Just sayin
I read the entire post and merely responded to your question.
4,765 posted on 04/23/2007 9:12:54 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!)
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To: Elyse; Just sayin
You want to argue that someone should have a choice to murder another innocent human being?

That seems to be EXACTLY what "Just sayin" is arguing.

4,766 posted on 04/23/2007 9:14:17 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: VRWCmember; justshutupandtakeit
You are right to challenge jsuati about PKM’s integrity. If anyone’s integrity is in question, it’s PKM. PKM didn’t respond to several posters who questioned her about her involvement with Rudy’s campaign. She could have very well been involved in an official capacity back when she was promoting him here, or, she might have “sealed the deal” with him at a recent event that Rudy had in OKC, that PKM attended, two weeks ago. There's no question that she has been involved in Rudy's campaign, in some capacity, for quite some time. I don’t think PKM was really ever upfront with us about this. Thankfully, she is no longer here to promote her liberal propaganda on this site.
4,767 posted on 04/23/2007 9:14:20 AM PDT by dmw (Conservatives do NOT vote for liberals.)
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To: roses of sharon

Yeah, it’s terrible that threads like that are posted and squeeze out opportunities to post Giuliani’s win in yesterday’s straw poll at the IHOP in Ames.


4,768 posted on 04/23/2007 9:15:15 AM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: wagglebee
Exactly.

The liberal world has successfully redefined the following terms:

LIBERAL TERM (REAL MEANING)

pro-choice (pro-abortion);

domestic investment (tax increases);

affirmative action (reverse discrimination);

cuts in social programs (cuts in GROWTH in social programs);

mean-spirited (fiscally responsible);

conservative (moderate):

moderate (liberal);

tax cuts for the rich (tax cuts for everyone).

4,769 posted on 04/23/2007 9:15:59 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal who will DIVIDE it!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
“But the republican still won in 2000, and he wasn’t a liberal.”




On the issue of the role of government, he certainly was.

4,770 posted on 04/23/2007 9:16:05 AM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: wagglebee

Please take my words from my post and show me where I back the choice of infanticide. I didnot present that point to you so why are presentin it to me? Stuck in a rut on your abortion debate are you?

Choiceis a founding fabric of this nation. Iguess you missed that part of freedom. The key is to work together to form choices for al that we can all benefit from.

By the way you are posting to me, I guess you don’t believe in that.

Again you talk numbers about something I already said I oppose and stated clearly that I oppose. So what is your point? It is not that particular choice I aim to protect, it is the ability to make a choice. It seems you do not understand the difference.

If you were serious about your postion you would address what I wrote to you. What you are saying about how I used CHOICE is not accurate. Maybe a re read would show you that.


4,771 posted on 04/23/2007 9:17:03 AM PDT by Just sayin (Is is what it is, for if it was anything else, it would be isn't.)
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To: Alia; Jim Robinson
Ever? Really?

Yes. It declared certain defeat for conservatives and conservatism, and counseled full and immediate surrender to the Left. What could be worse than that?

4,772 posted on 04/23/2007 9:17:23 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: roses of sharon

What’s your point with that link? They’ve always allowed posting threads that show how lefties think.


4,773 posted on 04/23/2007 9:18:59 AM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: wagglebee

Just the fact you say that I want abortion to be a choice made available shows you are NOT unerstanding what I wrote.

I said no such thing and my words prove that if you take the time to read them.


4,774 posted on 04/23/2007 9:19:04 AM PDT by Just sayin (Is is what it is, for if it was anything else, it would be isn't.)
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To: garv
Yeah, it’s terrible that threads like that are posted and squeeze out opportunities to post Giuliani’s win in yesterday’s straw poll at the IHOP in Ames.

*snort*

4,775 posted on 04/23/2007 9:19:05 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: Mo1
BS

Huh!? WTH are you talking about? Do you know something that I don't know?

4,776 posted on 04/23/2007 9:19:38 AM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spyder
There are lots of conservatives who don't believe in legislating our religion. We want everyone to be able to worship freely, not revert to the days of the Hugenots and others who were tortured and martyrs for their faith.

I'm a conservative...

I have yet to hear a good argument from the pro-life side as to why the Bible recommended lighter punishment for a man who caused another man's wife to miscarry than it did for a man who murdered the other man's wife.

You don't understand the legal differences between manslaughter or negligent homicide, and murder?

Who is attempting to "legislate your religion"? Who is attempting to revert to the days of the Hugenots and others who were tortured and martyred for their faith? (well... except liberals who will torture and murder children for not being born yet)

Using liberal slogans and catch phrases to attack phantom evils instead of real evil is a sign either of very poor thinking or no thinking at all, or is indicative of a pro-abort liberal making a very lame attempt to pose as conservative. I don't know if you are a pro abortion-killing liberal or not; it just appears that way to me.

Cordially,

4,777 posted on 04/23/2007 9:20:29 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: Elyse

That is not the choice I talked about Elyse. Read my words and you will see that. I said A choice not THAT choice.

My words in that post are clear that I do not support THAT choice but that removing all choice is is something I also oppose. READ THE POST.


4,778 posted on 04/23/2007 9:20:31 AM PDT by Just sayin (Is is what it is, for if it was anything else, it would be isn't.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Voting for Rudy would probably be worse than pulling the lever for Hillary/Obama/Silky Pony, since his win would have the imprimatur of the so-called “conservative” GOP and he would face less opposition in leading the country further towards socialism.”




Bingo!!!

4,779 posted on 04/23/2007 9:21:16 AM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: garv

This thread?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1822101/posts

Sorry I missed the Ames, straw poll, or IHOP reference?


4,780 posted on 04/23/2007 9:21:59 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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