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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: DCPatriot
I'm hoping Thompson gets in the race as well. He seems to be the perfect consensus candidate.

If it comes down to Giuliani vs. Clinton, et al, I'm not going to condemn anyone for voting for Giuliani, because at that point we've lost anyway. I do take issue with people claiming to be conservatives who have been pushing Giuliani for months and attacking other more conservative candidates.

2,761 posted on 04/22/2007 2:24:57 PM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: Luke21

Take your meds, Lukey. You’re starting to sound REALLY silly here.


2,762 posted on 04/22/2007 2:25:55 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: 68 grunt

You’re already a proven liar, fake, coward, and anti-freeper. Nobody takes you seriously. Why don’t you tell JR what you say about him elsewhere, coward? Are you afraid of getting what your liberals buddies have been getting? Why do you have to hide behind insulting people you don’t even know? Because you’re too much of a coward stand up to JR like a man. You’re a fake.


2,763 posted on 04/22/2007 2:26:03 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: Chuck Dent
FR is an good sounding board & excellent forum in which to exercise political debate, but it has no influence on actual politics and/or policy at any level, whether it be local, state or national.

Actually that isn't correct. The first thing I think of is Dan Rather. Ask ol' Dan if FR doesn't make a difference.

2,764 posted on 04/22/2007 2:28:37 PM PDT by politicalwit (Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
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To: BykrBayb
... Why don’t you tell JR what you say about him elsewhere, coward? ...

Because I don't, butch. You are lying. Typical of you.

2,765 posted on 04/22/2007 2:28:38 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Texasforever

Your post was big time over the line!


2,766 posted on 04/22/2007 2:28:53 PM PDT by sauropod ("An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools." Ernest Hemingway)
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To: ohioWfan
I don’t take meds, oh brilliant, thickheaded one. Give me some more. I haven’t argued with such a liberal dolt as you in many ages.

I’m sharpening my skills for my next verbal engagement with my mother in law. She has nothing but insults to offer, just like you. It usually isn’t my verbal style, but one in a while a true mushhead comes along worth my trouble.

By the way are you still afraid for yourself and your Rudybot friends? Tell them to come out and play.

2,768 posted on 04/22/2007 2:30:25 PM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way.)
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To: LimberJim
Life is a Cabaret old chum. ;)

Sang the gal in pre-Nazi Germany who was sleeping with the bi-sexual. ;)

...and had an abortion.

And a roomate who killed herself with an overdose.

2,769 posted on 04/22/2007 2:30:47 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: DCPatriot

B/S. An abortionist, gay rights supporting, illegal alien loving gun grabber is outright rejected by conservatives. He deserves and will receive zero support from FR. Period.


2,770 posted on 04/22/2007 2:30:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
That is what I was taught too but knowing this man Rudy as I do I consider it a sin to vote for him.I say that even if it came from the top to vote for him and many of my friends feel the same way.He is not acceptable.
2,771 posted on 04/22/2007 2:30:57 PM PDT by fatima (Shut up Murtha)
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To: 68 grunt

And there you have. The liar/coward wusses out again.


2,772 posted on 04/22/2007 2:31:03 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: narses
Why so sarcastic and obtuse?

My point was that I've held that opinion on the cause/effect consequences of abortion/immigration for years and have posted it in here.

In no way did I try to take credit for showcasing the argument.

2,773 posted on 04/22/2007 2:32:13 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Luke21
I'll let the readers determine who's been out of line here.

But do try to get control, please. I'm getting embarrassed for you. Seriously, I am.

2,774 posted on 04/22/2007 2:33:05 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: ohioWfan

“Think about what Hillary AND a Rat run Congress will do to our troops.

Another Clinton in the Whitehouse is unthinkable!”

But at what cost do we lose our values?

If we compromise to keep them out, with someone that adhere’s to many of their same policies, what have we won?

Time to change Congress with the ‘next’ vote?

Sometimes the right thing to do isn’t always the easiest.

I understand your anxiety because of your son serving, and I would be anxious as well if one of my daughters was there, but we must reach a point where enough is enough. No matter how hard the sacrifice may seem.

It’s never easy to make a decision when you are staring down the barrel of a gun. But making the wrong decision will only postpone the inevitable.

IMHO if Rudy makes it too the whitehouse, then the GOP may aw well just join the Democrats as one big party, because the fight will be gone out of them.

I know you will disagree, but I’m just not willing to compromise my Conservative principals any longer.

Besides, at my age, ‘any longer’ may be a lot short than I think.

:0)


2,775 posted on 04/22/2007 2:33:17 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Jim Robinson
I can understand not settling on which of the conservative candidates to support, but surely you can rule out an admitted abortionist liberal. What's that all about?

Jim, I don't know why I have to rule out anyone today. I don't know why you have to, either. Rudy has some glaring weaknesses which have hardly been overlooked at this forum. He also has some strengths.

You can rule him out for saying that it's a woman's right to choose, but that's actually currently the law. Stating a fact shouldn't be a crime.

I'm not on this thread to defend Rudy, because he's not my candidate. There are a lot of things about him that trouble me.

But if you allow the forum to self-destruct over his candidacy, I won't be happy. I'm not happy right now, to be honest.

There's no reason this forum should be blowing up over the November 2008 election in April of 2007.

Nobody is questioning this forum's commitment to conservative values, and certainly not me. I have always said that I'll support the most conservative credible candidate available in the primary and then choose the lesser of two evils in the general, because I've never found a candidate that agrees with me 100% on everything in life.

I don't even agree with some of the posts I made four years ago.

It's your forum, and if we all have to come out against Rudy right now in order to keep our posting privileges, just say so. I'll think about it, but I don't know. I'm not for him, and I'm not against him. I don't know why I should make that decision this month.

2,776 posted on 04/22/2007 2:34:43 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: BykrBayb
Are you stepping up to the plate to be the next banned liberal, or are you too cowardly to take it that far?

Don't you ever stop?

2,777 posted on 04/22/2007 2:35:18 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: MACVSOG68
I see the purge continues

And long overdue it is. This forum has been a tool of the GOP long enough. PURGE! PURGE! PURGE!

2,778 posted on 04/22/2007 2:35:24 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Bigh4u2
I am PRAYING that Rudy doesn't make it to the White House.

And I am praying that a candidate who is pro-life and pro-national security emerges in the coming months.

We would be better as a forum if we would join together in prayer and hard work and cut out the massacre of others who see things in a very slightly different light.

I VERY much appreciate this conversation with you, Bigh. Thank you!

2,779 posted on 04/22/2007 2:35:54 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: ohioWfan; fatima

> I disagree strongly with those who support Rudy, but I also disagree with wholesale character assassination.

I believe the only answer is more speech unless it is factually incorrect or personal attack.

Not sure what Peach said was a hanging offense, but hey I don’t own this forum. This debate as we are having now is a tough one. It’s about the future of the conservative movement. I expect it to get heated. I’m saddened that long time members are getting booted.

I do know that I continue to draw strength from the forum, especially as I am trapped in liberal land.


2,780 posted on 04/22/2007 2:36:13 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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