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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: processing please hold
No. I'm not interested in anything you have to say.

Good bye.

2,541 posted on 04/22/2007 1:04:22 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you Jim Robinson, for Free Republic!
You have made an excellent point. I hope Fred Thompson runs. I think he could be elected!
I believe the Democrat nominee will be Al Gore.
The Republican party needs a conservative to go against him.

keeper


2,542 posted on 04/22/2007 1:04:28 PM PDT by keeper53
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To: ohioWfan
Oh brother.

What I find interesting is the lengths some are going to to blame conservatives for everything - here you are blaming them for abandoning Reagan & irrationally worshipping him at the same time.

2,543 posted on 04/22/2007 1:05:03 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: tiredoflaundry; Luke21

*Wave* to the lurkers!

2,544 posted on 04/22/2007 1:05:11 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Luke21
I don’t understand people who won’t fight for a conservative candidate in the primary. To accept such a loathesome choice between Hillary and Giuliani is like choosing between a cold and the flu. I don’t like Rudy, nor do I trust him.

I don't understand why we won't let the primary process play out like it has for a couple hundred years.

It is wonderful to oppose Rudy. Or McCain, of Hunter, or whoever the hell we want to oppose. Somebody please explain to me why conservatives, or even conservatives at this forum, have to be in agreement about a candidate before the first debate, much less the first primary election.

2,545 posted on 04/22/2007 1:05:28 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: keeper53

2,500 posts in nineteen hours? This must be a record.


2,546 posted on 04/22/2007 1:05:39 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Enosh

LOLOL!!


2,547 posted on 04/22/2007 1:06:13 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (The greatest danger to our troops is the Congress of the United States.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; Jim Robinson; EternalVigilance; ohioWfan; Cindy; Alamo-Girl; wagglebee; ...
One of the most important points I've ever seen made on FR. Especially right now at this point in our Country's history.

The Republic is based upon TheoNomic Principles (literally, "God's Law"), not TheoCracy (literally, "God is King").

It is both desirable and virtuous to seek the organization of Government according to a Biblical Theonomy -- a sacrosanct respect for Life, Liberty, and Property, according to an organization favoring Decentralization and Constitutionalism (exmaples from Deuteronomy and Daniel available on request).

But it is both dangerous and un-Biblical to seek any sort of Theocracy of Men until the Return of Jesus Christ. No mortal Man of Politics is properly qualified to be Theocrat, except for Him.


God's ("Moral") Laws are absolute and there are those who are striving to drag FR and especially America entirely out of the realm of faith and into the secularized fiscal-conservatism leavened Mammon that is Cultural Marxism.

Why the Pledge of Allegiance Matters--Speech by Tom McClintock
There is a reason behind the movement to strike the words "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance--and from our national customs, and our currency, and our public ceremonies. It has very little to do with atheism. It has a great deal to do with authoritarianism. The philosophy of the American Founding is unique among the nations of the world because of a bedrock principle that was given expression with words in the Declaration of Independence that are old and familiar, and yet...
Why the Pledge of Allegiance Matters--Speech by Tom McClintock
2,548 posted on 04/22/2007 1:06:16 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: tiredoflaundry
“That is a lot of “lurkers”

Yeah, it’s great. A lot of people reading, with a lot fewer discussing. I’ve already been called a nazi, by one of our liberal friends. I don’t care.

It takes a strong constitution to debate these people. I try to do it with civility and humor, but sometimes I get a bit testy. When I do that I go way for awhile, because this is fun. It’s just people with keyboards hollering at each other. Nothing more. Nothing less.

And I’m really glad we have it. It’s always dead at Liberty Post, and nobody ever posts anything positive about anything.

2,549 posted on 04/22/2007 1:06:37 PM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way.)
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To: narses
From your post on RG speech N.A.R.A.L.

“In fact, it might be more consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party. Because the Republican Party stands for the idea that you have to restore more freedom of choice, more opportunity, more opportunity for people to make their own choices rather than the government dictating those choices.”

This position (limited government intervention in personal choices) is indeed a core Republican Party principle.

2,550 posted on 04/22/2007 1:06:44 PM PDT by NGRY
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To: EnquiringMind

I did consider that?


2,551 posted on 04/22/2007 1:07:35 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Sir, I supported Steve Forbes. Maybe before your time. There was some kind of awful about Keyes but I was always respectful of him. And this forum fought me tooth and nail about my support of Steve Forbes, but they never EVER told me I had to go."

To the best of my knowledge, Forbes is NOT an abortionist, feminist, homosexualist, illegal alien loving, gun grabbing liberal. Giuliani is. Those who continue trying to push this socialist butcher off onto the rest of us are going to feel a whole LOT of pushing back. This I promise.

And those who can't bear the truth about Giuliani and can't understand why conservatives outright reject such a repulsive liberal, should get out of the kitchen now, because we've barely begun to fight. I'm making it my own personal goal to knock Giuliani out of the primaries, simply by revealing the stark ugly truth about him. Mostly with words out of his own filthy mouth.

2,552 posted on 04/22/2007 1:07:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The only time I have seen people here called non-Christians is when they ridicult Christians, support abortion, etc. You have to agree that Rudy Giuliani has offended the Christian Right of the GOP, and some of his supporters here have made wise cracks about the “religious zealot” Christians. They created the animosity.


2,553 posted on 04/22/2007 1:08:01 PM PDT by TommyDale ("Can debate over four hours with no need to call a doctor!")
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To: mkjessup

I certainly don’t agree with a fair collection of Peach’s comments, but your dancing on her grave is not only incredibly immature, your post degrades the value of this forum.


2,554 posted on 04/22/2007 1:08:06 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Just because you are away does not mean you are not in New Orleans - Je$$e Jackson)
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To: skeeter
You are VERY confused.

Feel free to continue posting bizarre things to me. I shant respond.

2,555 posted on 04/22/2007 1:08:25 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: ohioWfan

:-)


2,556 posted on 04/22/2007 1:09:13 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: narses
Sorry, I’d rather be the opposition than complicit in that kind of moral degradation.

I respect that.

This country, with over 300 million, has virtually 100% employment.

Add another 12 million employed in the black market.

The less than 5% of non-employed Americans are in that predicament because they are temporarily facing a setback or just unwilling to work. IMO, many of THEM are also part of the black market economy.

The point is that we NEED the immigrant for economic reasons. Many cities would face financial ruin or depression if the illegal suddenly 'disappeared'.

To allow THAT to happen is also moral degradation of millions of our citizens.

IOW, pick your poison.

2,557 posted on 04/22/2007 1:09:14 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: NGRY

“This position (limited government intervention in personal choices) is indeed a core Republican Party principle”

If you CHOOSE to kill, you are a murderer!


2,558 posted on 04/22/2007 1:09:23 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Jim Robinson
Do you really expect me to do that?

Nope! Not at all. No way.
Keep up the good work.

2,559 posted on 04/22/2007 1:09:31 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: NGRY; Gumdrop; trustandhope; MarkBsnr; pblax8; oakcon; newbie 10-21-00; Bloc8406; Ransomed; ...
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Please ping me to all note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

This position (limited government intervention in personal choices) is indeed a core Republican Party principle.
Indeed, as long as your exercise of your choices doesn't interfere in the right to the same enjoyment of choices by others. Murder tends to do that and is therefore against the law. Killing an innocent child in the womb is murder. It is a moral outrage. It is supported by those whose conscience is so malformed that they redefine that human life out of existence and consign it to the status of "non-human" or "untermensch". Evil.
2,560 posted on 04/22/2007 1:10:41 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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