Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[ohioWfan]

No. I'm not interested in anything you have to say.

Good bye.

[keeper53]

Thank you Jim Robinson, for Free Republic!
You have made an excellent point. I hope Fred Thompson runs. I think he could be elected!
I believe the Democrat nominee will be Al Gore.
The Republican party needs a conservative to go against him.

keeper

[skeeter]

Oh brother.

What I find interesting is the lengths some are going to to blame conservatives for everything - here you are blaming them for abandoning Reagan & irrationally worshipping him at the same time.

[Enosh]

*Wave* to the lurkers!

[Dog Gone]

I don’t understand people who won’t fight for a conservative candidate in the primary. To accept such a loathesome choice between Hillary and Giuliani is like choosing between a cold and the flu. I don’t like Rudy, nor do I trust him.

I don't understand why we won't let the primary process play out like it has for a couple hundred years.

It is wonderful to oppose Rudy. Or McCain, of Hunter, or whoever the hell we want to oppose. Somebody please explain to me why conservatives, or even conservatives at this forum, have to be in agreement about a candidate before the first debate, much less the first primary election.

[Vision]

2,500 posts in nineteen hours? This must be a record.

[tiredoflaundry]

LOLOL!!

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

One of the most important points I've ever seen made on FR. Especially right now at this point in our Country's history.

The Republic is based upon TheoNomic Principles (literally, "God's Law"), not TheoCracy (literally, "God is King").

It is both desirable and virtuous to seek the organization of Government according to a Biblical Theonomy -- a sacrosanct respect for Life, Liberty, and Property, according to an organization favoring Decentralization and Constitutionalism (exmaples from Deuteronomy and Daniel available on request).

But it is both dangerous and un-Biblical to seek any sort of Theocracy of Men until the Return of Jesus Christ. No mortal Man of Politics is properly qualified to be Theocrat, except for Him.

God's ("Moral") Laws are absolute and there are those who are striving to drag FR and especially America entirely out of the realm of faith and into the secularized fiscal-conservatism leavened Mammon that is Cultural Marxism.

Why the Pledge of Allegiance Matters--Speech by Tom McClintock
There is a reason behind the movement to strike the words "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance--and from our national customs, and our currency, and our public ceremonies. It has very little to do with atheism. It has a great deal to do with authoritarianism. The philosophy of the American Founding is unique among the nations of the world because of a bedrock principle that was given expression with words in the Declaration of Independence that are old and familiar, and yet...
Why the Pledge of Allegiance Matters--Speech by Tom McClintock

[Luke21]

“That is a lot of “lurkers”

Yeah, it’s great. A lot of people reading, with a lot fewer discussing. I’ve already been called a nazi, by one of our liberal friends. I don’t care.

It takes a strong constitution to debate these people. I try to do it with civility and humor, but sometimes I get a bit testy. When I do that I go way for awhile, because this is fun. It’s just people with keyboards hollering at each other. Nothing more. Nothing less.

And I’m really glad we have it. It’s always dead at Liberty Post, and nobody ever posts anything positive about anything.

[NGRY]

From your post on RG speech N.A.R.A.L.

“In fact, it might be more consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party. Because the Republican Party stands for the idea that you have to restore more freedom of choice, more opportunity, more opportunity for people to make their own choices rather than the government dictating those choices.”

This position (limited government intervention in personal choices) is indeed a core Republican Party principle.

[Delphinium]

I did consider that?

[Jim Robinson]

"Sir, I supported Steve Forbes. Maybe before your time. There was some kind of awful about Keyes but I was always respectful of him. And this forum fought me tooth and nail about my support of Steve Forbes, but they never EVER told me I had to go."

To the best of my knowledge, Forbes is NOT an abortionist, feminist, homosexualist, illegal alien loving, gun grabbing liberal. Giuliani is. Those who continue trying to push this socialist butcher off onto the rest of us are going to feel a whole LOT of pushing back. This I promise.

And those who can't bear the truth about Giuliani and can't understand why conservatives outright reject such a repulsive liberal, should get out of the kitchen now, because we've barely begun to fight. I'm making it my own personal goal to knock Giuliani out of the primaries, simply by revealing the stark ugly truth about him. Mostly with words out of his own filthy mouth.

[TommyDale]

The only time I have seen people here called non-Christians is when they ridicult Christians, support abortion, etc. You have to agree that Rudy Giuliani has offended the Christian Right of the GOP, and some of his supporters here have made wise cracks about the “religious zealot” Christians. They created the animosity.

[NautiNurse]

I certainly don’t agree with a fair collection of Peach’s comments, but your dancing on her grave is not only incredibly immature, your post degrades the value of this forum.

[ohioWfan]

You are VERY confused.

Feel free to continue posting bizarre things to me. I shant respond.

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:-)

[DCPatriot]

Sorry, I’d rather be the opposition than complicit in that kind of moral degradation.

I respect that.

This country, with over 300 million, has virtually 100% employment.

Add another 12 million employed in the black market.

The less than 5% of non-employed Americans are in that predicament because they are temporarily facing a setback or just unwilling to work. IMO, many of THEM are also part of the black market economy.

The point is that we NEED the immigrant for economic reasons. Many cities would face financial ruin or depression if the illegal suddenly 'disappeared'.

To allow THAT to happen is also moral degradation of millions of our citizens.

IOW, pick your poison.

[stephenjohnbanker]

“This position (limited government intervention in personal choices) is indeed a core Republican Party principle”

If you CHOOSE to kill, you are a murderer!

[Fiddlstix]

Do you really expect me to do that?

Nope! Not at all. No way.
Keep up the good work.

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This position (limited government intervention in personal choices) is indeed a core Republican Party principle.

Indeed, as long as your exercise of your choices doesn't interfere in the right to the same enjoyment of choices by others. Murder tends to do that and is therefore against the law. Killing an innocent child in the womb is murder. It is a moral outrage. It is supported by those whose conscience is so malformed that they redefine that human life out of existence and consign it to the status of "non-human" or "untermensch". Evil.