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If he DID say he was now opposed to partial birth abortion, that represents an untested flip-flop on the position, and for Rudy, one of a growing chain of flip-flops.

Yes, I do think Rudy has indicated that he thinks PBA should be banned as long as there is an exception to save the life of the mother.

Why dont you accuse Fred of flip flopping on abortion?

I still like them both. There is probably not a single politician who does not have a situation akin to this in his record.

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“long as there is an exception to save the life of the mother.”
Most pro-abortion canddates of either party use this phrase and really mean to include the “mental health of the mother”(? If you abort, are you a mother ?).
In other words, abortions for any reason are permitted as long as you say the mental health is endangered. I have no stats, but I do not think that the percentage of women who would die if their baby is brought to term is very large.

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Why dont you accuse Fred of flip flopping on abortion?

Let's see here:

Rudy: 100% NARAL rating, praised the work of Margaret Sanger, and thinks taxpayer-funded abortion is a constitutional right.

Fred: 0% NARAL rating and a Pro-Life record in the Senate.

If you've changed your mind on a certain subject, you follow through with action. If you're only flip-flopping, then you're saying stuff you don't believe in for the sake of getting votes.

If Fred was once Pro-Choice, he's changed his mind.

Rudy has always been an ardent supporter of abortion, through words and deed. That he's talking differently now, in the middle of an election cycle, screams 'flip-flop' to me.

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I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights, Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded. Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999 http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Rudy_Giuliani_Abortion.htm

ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES (November 14, 2006)

RUDY GIULIANI (R), FORMER MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY: I'm pro- choice. I'm pro-gay rights.

KING: Giuliani supports a woman's right to an abortion, and back in 1999, he opposed a federal ban on late-term abortions.

GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.

KING: Immigration could be another presidential landmine. Back in 1996, Mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.

JEFFREY: He took the side of illegal immigrants in New York City against the Republican Congress.

KING: Giuliani opposes same-sex marriage but as mayor, he supported civil unions and extending health and other benefits to gay couples. He also supported the assault weapons ban and other gun control measures opposed by the National Rifle Association.

GIULIANI: I'm in favor of gun control. I'm pro-choice.

Republican Big-Wigs Support Pro-Abortion Event in NY

Pro-abortion Governor George Pataki and New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also supports unrestricted abortion, are co-chairs of the 2000 Choice Award Presentation to be held on May 30 at the St. Regis Hotel in New York City. The event is sponsored by the Republican Pro-Choice Coalition, a group that is campaigning for the removal of the pro-life plank from the Republican National Platform.


http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200503010743.asp

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“accuse Fred of flip flopping on abortion? “
Why yes, he became pro-life quite awhile ago.
I don’t have the link handy, but maybe spiff or napkin user does:
Fred Thompson = 0% from NARAL
Rooody = 100% from NARAL.

Please don’t drink the rudy-aid.