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Candidate Giuliani Shifts His Tone on Immigration
NY Times ^
| April 22, 2007
| MARC SANTORA and SAM ROBERTS
Posted on 04/21/2007 11:58:20 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: upsdriver
That is such twisted logic, help them become citizens but not offer amnesty! How is that possible?
That's the same line GW has been feeding the bots for 6 years.
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posted on
04/21/2007 12:25:50 PM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: Petronski
Rudy is the only Republican to the left of Bush on illegal immigration : )
22
posted on
04/21/2007 12:26:45 PM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
To: stephenjohnbanker
Rudy is the only Republican to the left of Hillary on abortion (as she has not yet called for public funding).
23
posted on
04/21/2007 12:27:42 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(FRED!)
To: EagleUSA
When do we start laughing? Yeah, they see such a strong need for border control, that is why NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE OF ANY SUBSTANCE, in fact they work to PREVENT suppression of illegal flow. Hypocrites and liars.
But but but...
Border control is hard work.
Family values don't end at the border.
They come here to do jobs American's won't do. [They account for 5-15% in some job classifications -- so, who is doing the remaining 85-95% of those???]
They will go to the end of the line.
It isn't amnesty.
They will pay a fine.
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posted on
04/21/2007 12:29:45 PM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: Petronski
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posted on
04/21/2007 12:30:38 PM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
To: stephenjohnbanker
Rudy is the only Republican to the left of Bush on illegal immigration : )
Right on. Both are soverignty-busters.
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posted on
04/21/2007 12:31:34 PM PDT
by
EagleUSA
To: Petronski
“Rudy is the only Republican to the left of Hillary on abortion (as she has not yet called for public funding).”
I never thought of that, but Rudy is INDEED to the left of Hillary!
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posted on
04/21/2007 12:31:55 PM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
To: TomGuy
I realize that. We need to discard the whole pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens policy.
28
posted on
04/21/2007 12:32:28 PM PDT
by
upsdriver
(DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
To: EagleUSA
Like Mr. Bush, Mr. Giuliani emphasizes the need for (getting) tough (on) border controls (agents). There, I fixed it.
29
posted on
04/21/2007 12:32:49 PM PDT
by
alicewonders
(I like Duncan Hunter for President in 2008!)
To: NeoCaveman
“First abortion, then (some) guns, now immigration, by December he might have his impersonation of a conservative down pat.”
Impersonation is the best description I’ve ever heard. Real Conservatives don’t have to flip flop. They know where they stand and have always stood there.
30
posted on
04/21/2007 12:32:59 PM PDT
by
Leatherneck_MT
(Won't vote for a liberal in the democrat party, won't vote for one in the Republican party. Ever)
To: stephenjohnbanker
Rudy is the only Republican to the left of Bush on illegal immigration : )
McCain is pretty far to the left, and Romney has been flopping around the issue like a fish with no water. Huckabee, as governor, luv-ed those illegals. Brownback and Hagel seem to be on that same page.
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posted on
04/21/2007 12:35:50 PM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: Petronski
Rudy is the only Republican to the left of Hillary on abortion (as she has not yet called for public funding).
Yes but Rudy looks better in a dress than Hillary. Well, at least he wears one occasionally.
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posted on
04/21/2007 12:37:01 PM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: TomGuy
I think my border collie would look better in a dress than Hillary : )
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posted on
04/21/2007 12:40:28 PM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
To: calcowgirl
now he emphasizes denying amnesty. Mr. Giulianis approach is similar to the one proposed by President Bush, advocating an orderly flow of immigrants by providing a clear path to citizenship
Non Sequitur alert!
To: calcowgirl
“Mr. Giuliani frames the issue as one of national security. But as he talks about immigration on the campaign trail, Mr. Giuliani suggests that his core beliefs have not changed much since his days as mayor,”
Thats great Rooty. Your core beliefs are still what they were when you defied court orders to run your sanctuary city at tax payer expense...
Kennedy School of Government
Harvard University
Thursday, October 10, 1996
“I am speaking out because I believe that a threat to immigration can be a threat to the future of our country. Just as they did in years past, immigrants today revitalize and reinvigorate the culture and economy of our cities and states...
” Many don’t speak English, or speak it haltingly. That may give the impression that their children would be a burden to our school system. But the fact is, their children often out-perform native-born students...
“So there is really no reason for the punitive anti-immigration legislation that we are now seeing in Washington.
“So illegal and undocumented immigrants are going to remain, and even increase.
“Executive Order 124” protects undocumented immigrants in New York City from being reported to the I.N.S. While they are using City services that are critical for their health and safety, and for the health and safety of the entire city.
“And yet Section 434 of the new welfare reform law, and Section 642 of the new immigration law, would effectively invalidate New York City’s “Executive Order 124.”
“The federal government’s effort to overturn “Executive Order 124” is not only bad policy, it is a violation of the U.S. Constitution. It is my opinion that the new law is unfair because discriminates based on immigration status.
http://www.ibisnetwork.com/giuliani/text/immkenn.html
Yes folks, Rooty thinks its a violation of the Constitution to deny welfare to ILLEGALS, and as he said, he hasn’t changed his mind.
No thanks Rooty, stay in NYC and play dress-up with your queer friends.
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posted on
04/21/2007 12:42:33 PM PDT
by
Beagle8U
(FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
To: Petronski
Flippity flop flop, flippity flop flop, Rudys on his way.... No real flip flop. Before he was for amnesty and now he supports the President's plan. Same thing.
To: calcowgirl
Lets see now. Rudy says he believes killing the unborn is a womans constitutional right, regulating the 2nd amendment is okay, special rights for gays is fine and amnesty for illegals is just dandy.
No wonder conservative Freepers aren’t buying what Rudy is selling.
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posted on
04/21/2007 12:50:00 PM PDT
by
Reagan Man
(FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
To: Reagan Man
See post #35. He thinks Illegals have a Constitutional RIGHT to welfare!
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posted on
04/21/2007 12:54:09 PM PDT
by
Beagle8U
(FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
To: upsdriver
Well it appears the majority of the party does want to nominate him.
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posted on
04/21/2007 12:54:20 PM PDT
by
dc-zoo
To: Reagan Man; All
Pro illegal
Pro abortion
Pro homo
Gun grabber
Nothing to buy here.
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posted on
04/21/2007 12:57:48 PM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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