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To: RS

You said — We DO know that the shooter did not take the time to detect that “A” was playing dead. ANY time he spent on any other matter contributed to the survival of “A”.

We can recount the facts that are presented to us and see what we come up with. We are told several things which are given as facts and then we are told the student’s “belief”.

The fact is that Waleed was intitally shot and wounded, on the first go-round. We know that the uninjured student and Waleed were laying next to each other. We know that the uninjured student was playing dead. We know that Waleed made a “movement” (student then says he has a “belief” about this movement). We know that the killer returned to the room two more times looking for signs of life.

We know — as a “result” — that since Waleed is dead, he exhibited signs of life, which resulted in the killer firing another shot into him, killing him. We also know — as a “result” — that since the uninjured student is alive, that the killer did not perceive that student to be alive, but dead.

So, when we examine those elementary facts and put it together with the “belief” of the student, we come up with these several things.

The killer upon returning to the room, looking for signs of life, sees Waleed move. He kills Waleed. The killer does not see any signs of life in the uninjured student (who is playing dead). The killer does not shoot the uninjured student. The killer leaves at some point.

The result is Waleed is dead because he moved. The uninjured student is alive because he was playing dead and the killer saw no signs of life in him.

Simple story — and we leave his “belief” to him and the counselors to sort out the typical guilt and grief that comes from being part of such a traumatic event, having someone right next to you shot dead, while that uninjured students stays alive, by playing dead. As we listen to what counselors say about these types of things, we see that people commonly seek to find “meaning” to senseless death, and this student’s “belief” is apparently his attempt.

The facts tell a more straightforward story...

Regards,
Star Traveler


548 posted on 04/22/2007 1:43:48 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

“and we leave his “belief” to him and the counselors to sort out the typical guilt and grief that comes from being part of such a traumatic event,”

AGAIN you profess to know things that you CANNOT, and base your assumptions on them -

BTW -

“We know — as a “result” — that since Waleed is dead, he exhibited signs of life, which resulted in the killer firing another shot into him, killing him. We also know — as a “result” — that since the uninjured student is alive, that the killer did not perceive that student to be alive, but dead.

NO we do not know those as results, we know it because of our belief that what “A” says regarding the events is accurate and truthfull.

From results all we know is that “A” is alive and Waleed is dead. From forensics we may be able to know the time between the shots that killed Waleed, the angles and perhaps the distance of the shooter.


552 posted on 04/22/2007 2:14:58 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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