You said — “How many do you want? Do a search. Just do one in your own state.
Where the clerk, server, owner, worker, laborer...etc..etc...defended themselves.”
In these cases that I’ve read and/or seen on TV or radio (and I do keep up on the news, ya know...), where someone has defended themselves from a robbery (like maybe a liquor store owner, or a night clerk somewhere, or whatever), of an assault or a burglary or any number of violent crimes against individuals — these have all been okay and legal to do (i.e., in “areas” that were not “gun-free zones”). There wasn’t an issue or a problem.
I’m not looking for examples of things like this in areas where there has never been any question of concealed weapons. Not at all. I’m looking *specifically* at the problem that one gets into when they do so in the *prohibited* areas. The many examples that you’re referring to are abundantly seen in the “legal” areas. That’s not the issue that I’m raising.
So, you see..., I wasn’t talking about those. Those are not the problem areas.
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Then — “Geesh....a “good ending” is if you are STILL ALIVE..! Losing a job, a position, or being adjudicated is nothing.”
Again, it’s a problem and not a good ending when you lose a job, or you’ve got a felony or you’ve ended up in court and have to spend thousands of dollars. And again, I am talking about those gun-free zones — like on school grounds, like at a university where they are banned, like at a job where the employer will fire you. Those are the areas where I’m talking about.
And so, I said that if someone goes ahead and decides to break the law (end up with a record which bans you from owning guns, for one thing) and/or take the penalty (either lost job, or dismissal from university) and all those sorts of things — then they are not going to end up with good endings.
Besides, what I’ve heard is that gun owners are “law abiding” and if that is so — then the gun owners are not going to be carrying concealed weapons in places where it’s not allowed.
Either you are going to be legal or you’re illegal (and/or penalties...). You can’t call gun owners the best around and obey the laws better than anyone else — and then advocate *breaking the laws* when carrying your gun...
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Finally — “IMHO, A good ending is breathing at the end.....”
Well, there are more considerations than just that. You can be breathing and go lose your job and go bankrupt — or — you can be breathing and still have job and still carry your gun in “legal areas” (and not violate the laws or policies.
Regards,
Star Traveler
Understand your first point/statement.
Oh man...you've reduced me to taking the it.."depends on what you think a problem is" tact. Ha!
But I will hold to..."I'D RATHER BE ALIVE, THAN DEAD". And ILLEGAL AND ALIVE FOR MY FAMILY, THAN DEAD"
I will concede you don't think as I. Fair enough....we will have to agree to disagree what we happen to think a good ending is...We obviously differ.
You can choose what you choose to to....And I will choose what I will choose.
It's also become evident, I believe you do NOT own a gun. And that speaks to me...more than your typed words.
It's a been a pleasure having some back-and-worth, erotern with you.....
FWIW-
In these cases that I’ve read and/or seen on TV or radio (and I do keep up on the news, ya know...)...
I just noticed where you get your news. It is quite likely that you have missed,
these stories, many with happy endings, some with the ending you envision...
Your point about willfully violating the "no carry" laws is well taken though. Of my 18,000 days wandering this planet, 17,998 of them have been completely free of threats by armed bad guys, and all 18,000 have been free of deranged mass murderers. Of those other two days, it was nice to be packing on one of them and to have a weapon out in the car on the other. (But, these did not occur in "no carry" zones.)
I generally agree that getting rid of bad laws is preferable to breaking them.
