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To: Star Traveler
And if the person says yes to felony, suspension, lost job — then you’ve already made up your mind...

In nearly all cases...I'd rather be alive....

And knowing I stopped some stealing, lying, robbing, murdering, rapist, loser oxygen pirate.

Are you really saying you'd be afraid of a felony or a little suspension...opposed to being dead?

Maybe you have a different mind-set than I.

84 posted on 04/22/2007 8:28:34 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: Osage Orange

You said — “In nearly all cases...I’d rather be alive....”

But, here is where the odds are not as you may be indicating. In these *prohibited* areas for concealed weapons, what is *more guaranteed* than being killed — is getting the penalty for violating the law and/or policy.

In the example that I gave, for several stories in Portland. There have been gunman that have come into business areas and have held people hostage for a while. And in every case that I’ve read about locally, no one has been killed. So, it’s not an *automatic given* that you are going to be killed. In fact, it’s more like being hit by lightning, very rare, if at all.

HOWEVER, I can give you something that *will happen* in these situations about 100% of the time — just about without fail. If you are carrying on school grounds, and you pull it out, you’re going to get prosecuted. If you are carrying a concealed weapon on university grounds where they are prohibited, and you confront someone with it, you are going to suffer some kind of penalty (I’ve heard anywhere from temporary suspension to permanent banning from the university to being arrested [like the student in Colorado this last week]). And if you are doing it at a job where they’ve set the policy to be that or be fired, and you pull it out to stop someone — then you are going to lose your job.

And in all those cases, it’s extremely rare, out of all those people, and situations and locations and over the years — that anyone dies (in those “no concealed weapons” areas). But — it’s about 100% certain, that you *will suffer the penalties* — every single time, without exception — if you pull out a weapon in a “no-concealed-weapons area”.

Thus, killing — rare. Penalties — about 100% of the time.

If these were odds in Las Vegas, I know what one I would bet on...

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You said — “And knowing I stopped some stealing, lying, robbing, murdering, rapist, loser oxygen pirate.”

Hey..., you can stop them in the areas where you can carry. Why subject yourself to a 100% guarantee of penalty in the “no carry zones” — when all you have to do is get the guy (or the “perp”) in a legal area? Doesn’t make sense to me...

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“Are you really saying you’d be afraid of a felony or a little suspension...opposed to being dead?”

Well..., it’s simple, the odds of dying are as rare as a lightning strike on me, walking down the street. The odds of me getting a penalty are 100% of I pull out a gun in a gun-free zone. Odds — rare vs. 100%. I take the “rare”....

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Finally — “Maybe you have a different mind-set than I.”

Well, I think you see it, as I’ve expressed it. It’s simply as a gun owner — be law-abiding and follow the rules and guidelines — nothing very complex here...

Regards,
Star Traveler


86 posted on 04/22/2007 9:04:04 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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