The comment this pertained to was (post #15) — “I do not know whether Western Carolina University, UNC-Asheville, or Brevard College have policies like Virginia Tech to “bar” guns on campus. Those “bans” of course apply only to those who choose to obey that “law.””
And then I said (post #17) — “But, in all the cases where we’ve heard about these kinds of shootings, it hasn’t come out with a “good ending” where someone decided that they were not going to obey the ban.”
Then you come up and say (post #27) — “In ALL cases? How many have you studied?”
Okay, then, now that we’ve got the “conversation” and the “context” for this, let’s look at it.
It was noted in Post #15 that the bans may or may not be there in those universities. But, if they are, the poster was saying, in effect, that one could choose to disobey the ban and carry *anyway* (that’s the point of the comment).
And then I come back, in reference to the fact that one would be in a “no-gun area” and yet, still carry and disobey the law (or rules or regulations) — that in all cases, I’ve never heard of a situation where “such a thing” came out with a good ending (where they decided to disobey the law and carry anyway, and yet, they were able to somehow stop some killer or crime in a university area, as we were referring specifically to that, while generally to “no gun” areas in general).
In all the things I’ve seen on Free Republic, news accounts, TV and so on — and I do say *all* — I’ve never heard of such — absolutely never!
HOWEVER, from your statement/question — “In ALL cases?” — you seem to be implying that you have heard of such a case where one was carrying illegally, in a “no-gun” area of a university (or perhaps some other no-gun-zone), stopped some killing or crime (obviousy with the gun) — and yet have it come out with a “good ending”.
What I have heard of, is people getting prosecuted, after the fact. But, that’s certainly not a “good ending”, for sure...
So, since in “all cases” I’ve never heard of such a thing — and evidently *you* seem to be implying that *you have* — I would be very anxious to hear about that case...
Please proceed...
Regards,
Star Traveler
Most chain convenience stores have an official policy prohibiting clerks from carrying, and they fire those who are caught.
But the clerks quite rightly figure they won't have a job anyway if they're dead, and tote in violation of company policy.
Those encounters frequently have "happy endings". You can always find another job, after all.
‘tis better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
Please at your leisure define "these kinds"....from your original post.
As I would like to eliminate the depends on what the "meaning of is" is argument.
As I'm hoping you would agree, that would be a waste of time on your part and mine........As I have nearly unlimited examples of people defending themselves from deadly force, with deadly force.
FRegards,